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i'm concerned about this as well, but i'm fine letting Chrome function simply as a dev tool and actually browse with Firefox, Opera, Servo, etc. w/uBlock Origin

i'm concerned about this as well, but i'm fine letting Chrome function simply as a dev tool and actually browse with Firefox, Opera, Servo, etc. w/uBlock Origin & uMatrix

wbl 9y ago
Firefox has some pretty nice dev tool extensions.
- Mayzie 9y ago
  It won't for long when they deprecate their extension API and move to Chromes...
  - derefr 9y ago
    Presumably that won't mean that Firefox will only install extensions from the Chrome Web Store, though. addons.mozilla.org will continue to exist.
  - clouddrover 9y ago
    The dev tools are built into Firefox by default. So what do you base your claim on?
    - y4mi 9y ago
      pretty sure he was talking about the extensions that extend them though. firebug comes to mind.
      - clouddrover 9y ago
        Firefox DevTools was built from Firebug, which is why they no longer develop Firebug. See the Firebug website: http://getfirebug.com/ http://getfirebug.com/ And here's some more history: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefox-devtools/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefo...
        robin_reala 9y ago
        No, Firefox Dev Tools is a completely seperate project historically. Firebug version 3 and up built on top of it, but that’s the only connection (beyond commonality in tool function).
  - H4CK3RM4N 9y ago
    They're sadly moving towards interoperability/feature-parity with WebExtensions, but I don't think they'll change entirely at any point.
    - Crespyl 9y ago
      I think they've explicitly stated that they're planning to entirely remove XUL from the codebase, eventually.
patrick_haply 9y ago
> i'm fine letting Chrome function simply as a dev tool and actually browse with Firefox, Opera, Servo, etc. w/uBlock Origin & uMatrix I'm definitely in the same boat. That makes me wonder if it would be a bad long-term move for Chrome. Just guessing here based on personal anecdata, developers are more likely to use ad blockers, which could alienate the developer community. If that's true, I wonder if we would see a resurgence in Firefox and other browsers.
- gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y ago
  Firefox needs to improve its dev tools first. I love Firefox as a browser but I find myself forced to use chromium devtools because I can't figure out how to get our source maps to work with Firefox :(
  - clarkbw 9y ago
    This is going to get a whole lot better. Try nightly now to see what's coming.

i'm concerned about this as well, but i'm fine letting Chrome function simply as a dev tool and actually browse with Firefox, Opera, Servo, etc. w/uBlock Origin & uMatrix

wbl 9y ago

Firefox has some pretty nice dev tool extensions.

Mayzie 9y ago
It won't for long when they deprecate their extension API and move to Chromes...
- derefr 9y ago
  Presumably that won't mean that Firefox will only install extensions from the Chrome Web Store, though. addons.mozilla.org will continue to exist.
- clouddrover 9y ago
  The dev tools are built into Firefox by default. So what do you base your claim on?
  - y4mi 9y ago
    pretty sure he was talking about the extensions that extend them though. firebug comes to mind.
    - clouddrover 9y ago
      Firefox DevTools was built from Firebug, which is why they no longer develop Firebug. See the Firebug website: http://getfirebug.com/ http://getfirebug.com/ And here's some more history: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefox-devtools/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefo...
      - robin_reala 9y ago
        No, Firefox Dev Tools is a completely seperate project historically. Firebug version 3 and up built on top of it, but that’s the only connection (beyond commonality in tool function).
- H4CK3RM4N 9y ago
  They're sadly moving towards interoperability/feature-parity with WebExtensions, but I don't think they'll change entirely at any point.
  - Crespyl 9y ago
    I think they've explicitly stated that they're planning to entirely remove XUL from the codebase, eventually.

patrick_haply 9y ago

> i'm fine letting Chrome function simply as a dev tool and actually browse with Firefox, Opera, Servo, etc. w/uBlock Origin & uMatrix I'm definitely in the same boat. That makes me wonder if it would be a bad long-term move for Chrome. Just guessing here based on personal anecdata, developers are more likely to use ad blockers, which could alienate the developer community. If that's true, I wonder if we would see a resurgence in Firefox and other browsers.

gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y ago
Firefox needs to improve its dev tools first. I love Firefox as a browser but I find myself forced to use chromium devtools because I can't figure out how to get our source maps to work with Firefox :(
- clarkbw 9y ago
  This is going to get a whole lot better. Try nightly now to see what's coming.