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I agree. Also the covfefe thing was such a blatant distraction and the left took the bait with pride.

glangdale 9y ago
Just, no. It is clear: he's an idiot with the attention span of a 3 year-old. He's not a masterful schemer whose every move is carefully calibrated for strategic success. These narratives about how it's all part of a cunning plan are just ridiculous. Sometimes floundering is just floundering.
- rvdavis 9y ago
  If he's a 3 year old floundering idiot, what does that make his political opponents who he continues to trounce?
  - sslayer 9y ago
    You ever see a 3yo fight a 2yo?
  - m_fayer 9y ago
    He's a 3 year old floundering idiot who happened to be at the right place at the right time.
  - pasquinelli 9y ago
    His job isn't to trounce oppinents, and ut's his job he's floundering at.
  - nerfhammer 9y ago
    Victims of propaganda
  - Veen 9y ago
    Reasonableness, rationality, diplomacy, civilization — these are fragile and require the good faith cooperation of intelligent people to have any effect on the world and to overcome our natural tendencies for selfish blinkered tribalism. An angry and selfish man with power can easily destroy the careful work of decades (or centuries). That doesn't make him smart or right.
    - maxlybbert 9y ago
      Ah yes, "my side is too nice to get anything done." It comes up in politics all the time. I've heard the claim since Reagan was in office. I've never believed it. --- The biggest problem in the US is that currently neither party has a convincing majority. During the Depression, Democrats held something like 75% of the Senate. When FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court, the Republicans had no ability to stop it and had to rely on Democratic senators to decide it looked bad. Today all politicians know that government control can change drastically in the next election, which gives a lot of hope to the guys out of power that if they slow things down just a little longer they'll achieve their wildest dreams, and a lot of fear for the guys in power that if they don't get what they want today they may not get another chance tomorrow.
      - Veen 9y ago
        I think you have misread what I said. There are brutish, stupid, and venal wreckers at both ends of the political spectrum. There are intelligent, careful, and thoughtful conservatives and socialists. Donald Trump and his followers are not among them. It's only the deeply fucked up political situation in the US that lead to conservatives (those interested in conserving the good that has been achieved) to support a person like Trump. Political effectiveness divorced from thoughtfulness and respect is not desirable.
- ygfvvhygvn 9y ago
  Did you not see the front page of reddit? The Russia scandal was completely gone and there was nothing but confeve memes as far as the eye could see. Don't let your irrational hatred of a man cloud your judgement. The fact that you are so easily duped by such a simple juke... literally 7 jabs of his thumb, should warn you that you need to spend some time in self reflection
  - astronautjones 9y ago
    How relevant do you think the front page of reddit is to reality?
    - ryanx435 9y ago
      A lot it's the 5th largest website in the usa.
      - Noseshine 9y ago
        With a demographic that is the inverse of the "voter turnout by age" graphic though [0]. [0] http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics
      - braderhart 9y ago
        So it is likely to be infiltrated with marketing disguised as news & comments. Lots of agendas. Not sure it is as relevant as you think.
      - luca_ing 9y ago
        Reddit as a whole, sure. The front page itself though? I don't know how others use it, but my frontpage is populated by my favourite subreddits, which are luckily mostly free of politics. TBH I have no idea how the majority use Reddit, but don't confuse the front page with all of Reddit. (As a side note, yesterday I went on /r/The_Donald out of morbid curiosity. I'm not sure what I expected, but it was rather shocking).
- fivestar 9y ago
  The Trump bashing on HN is idiotic. He's not a genius, but he's not stupid, either. I'd put him dead average intelligence-wise. Like all of us, he has his good points and bad. He's human. What I like about him is that he's not a slick, polished, lying politician and you can tell and it matters. He reminds me a lot of Reagan.

Just, no. It is clear: he's an idiot with the attention span of a 3 year-old. He's not a masterful schemer whose every move is carefully calibrated for strategic success. These narratives about how it's all part of a cunning plan are just ridiculous. Sometimes floundering is just floundering.

rvdavis 9y ago
If he's a 3 year old floundering idiot, what does that make his political opponents who he continues to trounce?
- sslayer 9y ago
  You ever see a 3yo fight a 2yo?
- m_fayer 9y ago
  He's a 3 year old floundering idiot who happened to be at the right place at the right time.
- pasquinelli 9y ago
  His job isn't to trounce oppinents, and ut's his job he's floundering at.
- nerfhammer 9y ago
  Victims of propaganda
- Veen 9y ago
  Reasonableness, rationality, diplomacy, civilization — these are fragile and require the good faith cooperation of intelligent people to have any effect on the world and to overcome our natural tendencies for selfish blinkered tribalism. An angry and selfish man with power can easily destroy the careful work of decades (or centuries). That doesn't make him smart or right.
  - maxlybbert 9y ago
    Ah yes, "my side is too nice to get anything done." It comes up in politics all the time. I've heard the claim since Reagan was in office. I've never believed it. --- The biggest problem in the US is that currently neither party has a convincing majority. During the Depression, Democrats held something like 75% of the Senate. When FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court, the Republicans had no ability to stop it and had to rely on Democratic senators to decide it looked bad. Today all politicians know that government control can change drastically in the next election, which gives a lot of hope to the guys out of power that if they slow things down just a little longer they'll achieve their wildest dreams, and a lot of fear for the guys in power that if they don't get what they want today they may not get another chance tomorrow.
    - Veen 9y ago
      I think you have misread what I said. There are brutish, stupid, and venal wreckers at both ends of the political spectrum. There are intelligent, careful, and thoughtful conservatives and socialists. Donald Trump and his followers are not among them. It's only the deeply fucked up political situation in the US that lead to conservatives (those interested in conserving the good that has been achieved) to support a person like Trump. Political effectiveness divorced from thoughtfulness and respect is not desirable.
ygfvvhygvn 9y ago
Did you not see the front page of reddit? The Russia scandal was completely gone and there was nothing but confeve memes as far as the eye could see. Don't let your irrational hatred of a man cloud your judgement. The fact that you are so easily duped by such a simple juke... literally 7 jabs of his thumb, should warn you that you need to spend some time in self reflection
- astronautjones 9y ago
  How relevant do you think the front page of reddit is to reality?
  - ryanx435 9y ago
    A lot it's the 5th largest website in the usa.
    - Noseshine 9y ago
      With a demographic that is the inverse of the "voter turnout by age" graphic though [0]. [0] http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics
    - braderhart 9y ago
      So it is likely to be infiltrated with marketing disguised as news & comments. Lots of agendas. Not sure it is as relevant as you think.
    - luca_ing 9y ago
      Reddit as a whole, sure. The front page itself though? I don't know how others use it, but my frontpage is populated by my favourite subreddits, which are luckily mostly free of politics. TBH I have no idea how the majority use Reddit, but don't confuse the front page with all of Reddit. (As a side note, yesterday I went on /r/The_Donald out of morbid curiosity. I'm not sure what I expected, but it was rather shocking).
fivestar 9y ago
The Trump bashing on HN is idiotic. He's not a genius, but he's not stupid, either. I'd put him dead average intelligence-wise. Like all of us, he has his good points and bad. He's human. What I like about him is that he's not a slick, polished, lying politician and you can tell and it matters. He reminds me a lot of Reagan.