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This move is mainly about making sure their own ads don't get blocked because of people trying to escape the bad behavior of others. But like you, I have doubts

This move is mainly about making sure their own ads don't get blocked because of people trying to escape the bad behavior of others. But like you, I have doubts about an ad blocker created by an advertising company.

Animats 9y ago
I have doubts about an ad blocker created by an advertising company. Right. Once Google gets this deployed, watch them remove ad-blocking add-ons from the Google Store.
- leeoniya 9y ago
  i'm concerned about this as well, but i'm fine letting Chrome function simply as a dev tool and actually browse with Firefox, Opera, Servo, etc. w/uBlock Origin & uMatrix
  - wbl 9y ago
    Firefox has some pretty nice dev tool extensions.
    - Mayzie 9y ago
      It won't for long when they deprecate their extension API and move to Chromes...
      - derefr 9y ago
        Presumably that won't mean that Firefox will only install extensions from the Chrome Web Store, though. addons.mozilla.org will continue to exist.
      - clouddrover 9y ago
        The dev tools are built into Firefox by default. So what do you base your claim on?
        y4mi 9y ago
        pretty sure he was talking about the extensions that extend them though. firebug comes to mind.
        clouddrover 9y ago
        Firefox DevTools was built from Firebug, which is why they no longer develop Firebug. See the Firebug website: http://getfirebug.com/ http://getfirebug.com/ And here's some more history: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefox-devtools/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefo...
        robin_reala 9y ago
        No, Firefox Dev Tools is a completely seperate project historically. Firebug version 3 and up built on top of it, but that’s the only connection (beyond commonality in tool function).
      - H4CK3RM4N 9y ago
        They're sadly moving towards interoperability/feature-parity with WebExtensions, but I don't think they'll change entirely at any point.
        Crespyl 9y ago
        I think they've explicitly stated that they're planning to entirely remove XUL from the codebase, eventually.
  - patrick_haply 9y ago
    > i'm fine letting Chrome function simply as a dev tool and actually browse with Firefox, Opera, Servo, etc. w/uBlock Origin & uMatrix I'm definitely in the same boat. That makes me wonder if it would be a bad long-term move for Chrome. Just guessing here based on personal anecdata, developers are more likely to use ad blockers, which could alienate the developer community. If that's true, I wonder if we would see a resurgence in Firefox and other browsers.
    - gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y ago
      Firefox needs to improve its dev tools first. I love Firefox as a browser but I find myself forced to use chromium devtools because I can't figure out how to get our source maps to work with Firefox :(
      - clarkbw 9y ago
        This is going to get a whole lot better. Try nightly now to see what's coming.
- fmueller 9y ago
  I don't think this would will be the case as it will only make people who know how to install an ad-blocker move to firefox. I think they target the users not having an ad-blocker installed.
mcintyre1994 9y ago
If it doesn't block Youtube's ads then I don't see any motivation to switch to it, and I can't imagine it will. I think YouTube is the only site with quality content that I'd find unusable without a blocker.
vlozko 9y ago
So Google is going to be picking winners and losers here? In some instances, the ad company in question may behave better than Google (The Deck was one before they folded). In a worse case scenario this could lead to anti-competitive behavior where Google is essentially blocking out competition while still enabling its own tracking/ad placement.

Animats 9y ago

I have doubts about an ad blocker created by an advertising company. Right. Once Google gets this deployed, watch them remove ad-blocking add-ons from the Google Store.

leeoniya 9y ago
i'm concerned about this as well, but i'm fine letting Chrome function simply as a dev tool and actually browse with Firefox, Opera, Servo, etc. w/uBlock Origin & uMatrix
- wbl 9y ago
  Firefox has some pretty nice dev tool extensions.
  - Mayzie 9y ago
    It won't for long when they deprecate their extension API and move to Chromes...
    - derefr 9y ago
      Presumably that won't mean that Firefox will only install extensions from the Chrome Web Store, though. addons.mozilla.org will continue to exist.
    - clouddrover 9y ago
      The dev tools are built into Firefox by default. So what do you base your claim on?
      - y4mi 9y ago
        pretty sure he was talking about the extensions that extend them though. firebug comes to mind.
        clouddrover 9y ago
        Firefox DevTools was built from Firebug, which is why they no longer develop Firebug. See the Firebug website: http://getfirebug.com/ http://getfirebug.com/ And here's some more history: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefox-devtools/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefo...
        robin_reala 9y ago
        No, Firefox Dev Tools is a completely seperate project historically. Firebug version 3 and up built on top of it, but that’s the only connection (beyond commonality in tool function).
    - H4CK3RM4N 9y ago
      They're sadly moving towards interoperability/feature-parity with WebExtensions, but I don't think they'll change entirely at any point.
      - Crespyl 9y ago
        I think they've explicitly stated that they're planning to entirely remove XUL from the codebase, eventually.
- patrick_haply 9y ago
  > i'm fine letting Chrome function simply as a dev tool and actually browse with Firefox, Opera, Servo, etc. w/uBlock Origin & uMatrix I'm definitely in the same boat. That makes me wonder if it would be a bad long-term move for Chrome. Just guessing here based on personal anecdata, developers are more likely to use ad blockers, which could alienate the developer community. If that's true, I wonder if we would see a resurgence in Firefox and other browsers.
  - gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y ago
    Firefox needs to improve its dev tools first. I love Firefox as a browser but I find myself forced to use chromium devtools because I can't figure out how to get our source maps to work with Firefox :(
    - clarkbw 9y ago
      This is going to get a whole lot better. Try nightly now to see what's coming.
fmueller 9y ago
I don't think this would will be the case as it will only make people who know how to install an ad-blocker move to firefox. I think they target the users not having an ad-blocker installed.

mcintyre1994 9y ago

If it doesn't block Youtube's ads then I don't see any motivation to switch to it, and I can't imagine it will. I think YouTube is the only site with quality content that I'd find unusable without a blocker.

vlozko 9y ago

So Google is going to be picking winners and losers here? In some instances, the ad company in question may behave better than Google (The Deck was one before they folded). In a worse case scenario this could lead to anti-competitive behavior where Google is essentially blocking out competition while still enabling its own tracking/ad placement.