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I have a cleantech startup, and in the industry we see this decision as only having a negative impact on deep red states. Most other states will implement manda

I have a cleantech startup, and in the industry we see this decision as only having a negative impact on deep red states. Most other states will implement mandates in line with Paris on their own, which will grow their local energy economies (the transition means lots of jobs). Deep red states that try to slow the transition will just get left behind. Trump is hurting his own base, while not slowing anyone else down. The economics are simply too good to turn back now. Happy to answer questions. And many companies in cleantech are hiring!

qbaqbaqba 9y ago
Would you company be possible without any sort of government support(federal/local/etc), financial or legal?
- addicted 9y ago
  Would oil companies be possible without the US military defending them in the rogue states they usually extract their oil from? And that's not even considering the direct subsidies they receive.
  - mikeash 9y ago
    Don't forget the massive indirect subsidies of being allowed to pollute without having to pay for the damage this causes to other people's health and property.
  - propman 9y ago
    In California we will be paying 77 cents per gallon just from taxes. So the price at the pumps would be 77cents lower. From every renewable energy we get tax credits. Yes we pay for subsidies of random things like cattle, corn, and oil, but the subsidies like the PTC and the solar energy credit are much more in comparison. This doesn't mean I don't agree with it. The subsidies have dropped the price of wind and solar considerably and we will see a huge economic boom from relatively little tax benefits. The greatest subsidies we could have right now can actually be accomplished through bipartisan support. Funding for transmission lines can be lumped into the infrastructure bill. $7 billion of transmission lines in Texas sponsored by the current trump cabinet pick Rick Perry brought Texas Wind energy production from nowhere to number one in the country and larger than three states below it in just 6 years. Texas is planning to add more win this year then the total amount by the second highest state has in total. He didn't force utilities to build wind farms. Instead he built the infrastructure to make building wind farms extremely cost competitive. There are a dozen possible transmission lines that would create thousands of jobs and connect wind and solar heavy areas to high density cities. If we can get those transmission lines up, we won't have to worry about government for renewable energy because it will be politically and economically in our benefit to use renewables
sqeaky 9y ago
> Trump is hurting his own base, while not slowing anyone else down. Whether it hurts them or not this is what many of them voted for. This is what many want.
propman 9y ago
Most of the new renewable energy is coming from red states and it's coming not due to some moral obligation but due to jobs, demand, and price. The Wind corridor may turn Blue for next election. Farmers getting paid 10k a year to lease a wind turbine on their farms is like striking oil that lasts forever. Counties that had been dead due to loss of manufacturing and movement into cities have been revitalized through many new jobs and tax revenues from wind farms. These counties may not have too many votes, but they have a huge representation in the House and we will see environmental friendly Conservatives or even Democrats coming from there.

qbaqbaqba 9y ago

Would you company be possible without any sort of government support(federal/local/etc), financial or legal?

addicted 9y ago
Would oil companies be possible without the US military defending them in the rogue states they usually extract their oil from? And that's not even considering the direct subsidies they receive.
- mikeash 9y ago
  Don't forget the massive indirect subsidies of being allowed to pollute without having to pay for the damage this causes to other people's health and property.
- propman 9y ago
  In California we will be paying 77 cents per gallon just from taxes. So the price at the pumps would be 77cents lower. From every renewable energy we get tax credits. Yes we pay for subsidies of random things like cattle, corn, and oil, but the subsidies like the PTC and the solar energy credit are much more in comparison. This doesn't mean I don't agree with it. The subsidies have dropped the price of wind and solar considerably and we will see a huge economic boom from relatively little tax benefits. The greatest subsidies we could have right now can actually be accomplished through bipartisan support. Funding for transmission lines can be lumped into the infrastructure bill. $7 billion of transmission lines in Texas sponsored by the current trump cabinet pick Rick Perry brought Texas Wind energy production from nowhere to number one in the country and larger than three states below it in just 6 years. Texas is planning to add more win this year then the total amount by the second highest state has in total. He didn't force utilities to build wind farms. Instead he built the infrastructure to make building wind farms extremely cost competitive. There are a dozen possible transmission lines that would create thousands of jobs and connect wind and solar heavy areas to high density cities. If we can get those transmission lines up, we won't have to worry about government for renewable energy because it will be politically and economically in our benefit to use renewables

sqeaky 9y ago

> Trump is hurting his own base, while not slowing anyone else down. Whether it hurts them or not this is what many of them voted for. This is what many want.

propman 9y ago

Most of the new renewable energy is coming from red states and it's coming not due to some moral obligation but due to jobs, demand, and price. The Wind corridor may turn Blue for next election. Farmers getting paid 10k a year to lease a wind turbine on their farms is like striking oil that lasts forever. Counties that had been dead due to loss of manufacturing and movement into cities have been revitalized through many new jobs and tax revenues from wind farms. These counties may not have too many votes, but they have a huge representation in the House and we will see environmental friendly Conservatives or even Democrats coming from there.