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It is true that they are all corrupt. However the level of corruption introduced by the workers' party is unprecedented. It's not merely corruption for personal
by andrenth 9y ago
It is true that they are all corrupt. However the level of corruption introduced by the workers' party is unprecedented. It's not merely corruption for personal gain, as in most other cases, but to support a project that had the goal of maintaining them perpetually in power. We are talking about the party who use Brazilian taxpayer money to fund other left-wing totalitarian governments in Latin America and Africa.
The article opposes the former and current governments as if they weren't elected together; it's morally broken to the point of saying corruption "allowed the party to get things done"; it says the investigation made the economy worse, as if it wasn't corruption that broke the economy, but unveiling it; it says previous administrations had commited the same administrative crimes as Rousseff's, which is plain fake news; it claims it's unclear Rousseff and Lula have obtained personal gains from corruption, while that is perfectly clear, especially in Lula's case; the "shelver-in-chief" narrative is straight from the worker party's collection of slogans and the current attorney general is not much different: why is Temer being investigated with such speed for his leaked recordings, while Roussef's leaked recordings, which were much more damning and showed clear intent of obstruction of justice resulted in nothing?
The article then insists on the narrative that taking Rousseff out was part of a plan to stop the Car Wash operation. That's fake news again, and The Guardian reports slogans from the workers' party as if they were facts. The truth is that they did and are still doing everything they can to stop the investigations, including the many attempts of character assassination of judge Moro and the Prosecution Office.
Finally, it ends by questioning if Car Wash was worth it because it helped bring down the workers' party government (clearly a good thing) and "and ushered in an administration that appears just as tainted", which is, again, fake news. Car Wash didn't (and couldn't) usher in any administration. The new administration was elected together with the previous one, and as the law dictates, Temer, as the elected vice-president, was made president. The questioning of whether unveiling the world's largest corruption scheme in history was "worth the pain" shows how broken and biased this piece of reporting is.
- dmichulke 9y agoThanks for the very detailed response. I'd be very happy to read more about your side of the things. While I don't follow the Brazilian developments too closely, I visit Brazil every year, so I "kind of know" what's going on. Still, articles like the guardian piece are really good for me because they connect the dots. If you happen to have some links to stories detailing your view, would you mind sharing them? I am fluent in Portuguese, so they don't have to be in English.
- andrenth 9y agoHere's an article listing infrastructure projects abroad funded by (or partly by) Brazilian taxpayer money from BNDES. Note that they all involve companies who have been shown to be related to multiple corruption scandals, but even if they weren't, for a country that lacks so much infrastructure like Brazil, these "investments" are at the very least questionable: https://spotniks.com/20-obras-que-o-bndes-financiou-em-outros-paises/ https://spotniks.com/20-obras-que-o-bndes-financiou-em-outro... The same site has a list of dictatorships that benefited from Brazilian investments during the workers' party governments: https://spotniks.com/7-ditaduras-financiadas-pelo-governo-brasileiro-nos-ultimos-anos/ https://spotniks.com/7-ditaduras-financiadas-pelo-governo-br... About Roussef's administrative crimes vs what happened in previous governments: http://m.jovempan.uol.com.br/programas/jornal-da-manha/reale-jr-pedaladas-de-governos-anteriores-nao-se-comparam-de-dilma.html http://m.jovempan.uol.com.br/programas/jornal-da-manha/reale... Workers' party bribe money from Odebrecht funded El Salvador campaign: http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/12/1838033-caixa-do-pt-bancou-aliado-em-el-salvador-diz-delacao.shtml http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/12/1838033-caixa-do-... Also in Angola, Venezuela, Dominican Republic and Panama: http://m.oantagonista.com/posts/o-pt-corrompeu-a-america-latina-e-a-africa http://m.oantagonista.com/posts/o-pt-corrompeu-a-america-lat... Roussef's obstruction of justice attempt by nominating former president Lula a cabinet member to put him out of reach from Car Wash judge Moro (in Brazil government officials and elected politicians can only be judged by the Supreme Court, and not by "regular" justices): http://veja.abril.com.br/politica/de-obstrucao-da-justica-ao-desespero-os-grampos-de-lula/ http://veja.abril.com.br/politica/de-obstrucao-da-justica-ao... Workers' party member claims judge Moro and pro-impeachment group are CIA agents (seriously): http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/reinaldo/petista-descobre-mbl-e-sergio-moro-foram-treinados-pelos-eua-para-destruir-o-brasil/ http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/reinaldo/petista-descobre-mbl-... Workers' party publishes document praising arrested members and criticizing Car Wash operation: http://epoca.globo.com/colunas-e-blogs/blog-do-fucs/noticia/2015/11/cartilha-contra-lava-jato-e-o-desespero-do-pt.html http://epoca.globo.com/colunas-e-blogs/blog-do-fucs/noticia/... Theres also this book about the Caw Wash operation, though being released in 2016 it obviously does not cover this year's developments: https://www.amazon.com.br/gp/aw/d/8568377084/ https://www.amazon.com.br/gp/aw/d/8568377084/ I could find more links but I only have my phone now so that's all I have the energy to do :P