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Congrats for winning! This does not change Firefox being on its final death throes though. Chrome won where it counts.

by midnitewarrior 9y ago

matt4077 9y ago
Nobody lost. We all "won", because, for the time being, Chrome is important for Google: They need to keep the open web as a platform competitive with Apple's iOS ecosystem, as well as Facebook's walled garden, because Google rules advertising in the first, but not in the latter two. Thus, Google's interests align with the users', and also Mozilla's. It's perfectly possible for this to change when, for example, it becomes lucrative for Google to move people from the open web to android apps. At that point, we should all hope to have Mozilla and others like it still around. It shouldn't be surprising that Google can outcompete any other organisation when it sees something as relevant to the absolute core of its business.
tommica 9y ago
And that is a sad thing :( I really hope Firefox comes back with a new push towards better web, and keeps pushing it!
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  In terms of usability it's already on a par, it's just a question of waiting for average users to have a strong enough reason to switch. Potential speed improvements from Project Quantum seem like the best hope in the short term.
baby 9y ago
tree style tabs
- ucho 9y ago
  Yeas, what about it? Oh right, it might stop working after Firefox 57: https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224 https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224 . There are people working on it but that isn't true for many other extensions that are no longer under active development.
  - baby 9y ago
    What is the point of using Chrome if you can't have something like Tree Style Tabs? Unless you're a beta user I don't see the point. I personally will stop using newer versions of Firefox if they stop supporting tabs on the side.

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Congrats for winning! This does not change Firefox being on its final death throes though. Chrome won where it counts.

by midnitewarrior 9y ago

Congrats for winning! This does not change Firefox being on its final death throes though. Chrome won where it counts.

matt4077 9y ago
Nobody lost. We all "won", because, for the time being, Chrome is important for Google: They need to keep the open web as a platform competitive with Apple's iOS ecosystem, as well as Facebook's walled garden, because Google rules advertising in the first, but not in the latter two. Thus, Google's interests align with the users', and also Mozilla's. It's perfectly possible for this to change when, for example, it becomes lucrative for Google to move people from the open web to android apps. At that point, we should all hope to have Mozilla and others like it still around. It shouldn't be surprising that Google can outcompete any other organisation when it sees something as relevant to the absolute core of its business.
tommica 9y ago
And that is a sad thing :( I really hope Firefox comes back with a new push towards better web, and keeps pushing it!
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  In terms of usability it's already on a par, it's just a question of waiting for average users to have a strong enough reason to switch. Potential speed improvements from Project Quantum seem like the best hope in the short term.
baby 9y ago
tree style tabs
- ucho 9y ago
  Yeas, what about it? Oh right, it might stop working after Firefox 57: https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224 https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224 . There are people working on it but that isn't true for many other extensions that are no longer under active development.
  - baby 9y ago
    What is the point of using Chrome if you can't have something like Tree Style Tabs? Unless you're a beta user I don't see the point. I personally will stop using newer versions of Firefox if they stop supporting tabs on the side.