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Poor person here. Inflation has made it so it's not even really an option. Everyone has removed their dollar menu and jacked up the price which is what I order

Poor person here. Inflation has made it so it's not even really an option. Everyone has removed their dollar menu and jacked up the price which is what I order off of if I was in a hurry. It's cheaper and effective for me to the burrito hole in the wall and get a massive burrito for 4 bucks than go to any fast food place.

nightcracker 9y ago
> It's cheaper and effective for me to the burrito hole in the wall and get a massive burrito for 4 bucks than go to any fast food place. The burrito place is also fast food.
- wutbrodo 9y ago
  I assume he means the fuzzy sense of the term that includes being part of a large chain. Most people's usage ofthe term doesn't include holes in the wall and language is obviously determined by usage.
  - dsacco 9y ago
    I believe the commenter you responded is aware of the colloquial distinction, and is gently asserting a point that this distinction is not to be believed. Regardless of the cultural zeitgeist about food preparation by large chains, food from McDonald's is qualitatively the same as food from many fast food restaurants that try to market themselves as above fast food.
    - wutbrodo 9y ago
      > and is gently asserting a point that this distinction is not to be believed. > McDonald's is qualitatively the same as food from many fast food restaurants that try to market themselves as above fast food. This assumes incorrectly that the only use of the distinction is a one-dimensional measure of quality. A couple of uses for the distinction that have nothing to do with "quality": 1) I don't tend to eat at chain restaurants much because I don't tend to eat at the same restaurants much (ie, I really like variety). This was pretty much true even for the few years that I ate every single weekend meal at restaurants (or takeout). 2) Part of chain restaurants' explicit goal is mass appeal and consistency of taste. Practically by definition, you're less likely to find the niche of flavor that appeals to you the most directly, or even as high a level of novelty and diversity of flavor as you would if going to holes in the wall. 3) I'm cheating a little bit making this a separate bullet pt, but #2 works the other way as well, since some people explicitly prefer consistency of flavor and knowing exactly what to expect to being adventurous about flavors and tastes. This isn't a value judgment: I had a girlfriend who described her taste as preferring bland food and there's no real basis for me to claim that I had "better" taste than her. It occurs to me that these examples are all pretty tightly related to the notion of chain restaurants providing consistency and mass appeal, but that doesn't really change my point at all.
marak830 9y ago
I have a (serious) question, why don't you cook yourself? Is it more expensive to cook in your location? Lack of time? I have heard this argument a lot and am honestly wondering (I'm not from the us, I'm a chef, so for me things may be a lot different, hence the question).
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nightcracker 9y ago

> It's cheaper and effective for me to the burrito hole in the wall and get a massive burrito for 4 bucks than go to any fast food place. The burrito place is also fast food.

wutbrodo 9y ago
I assume he means the fuzzy sense of the term that includes being part of a large chain. Most people's usage ofthe term doesn't include holes in the wall and language is obviously determined by usage.
- dsacco 9y ago
  I believe the commenter you responded is aware of the colloquial distinction, and is gently asserting a point that this distinction is not to be believed. Regardless of the cultural zeitgeist about food preparation by large chains, food from McDonald's is qualitatively the same as food from many fast food restaurants that try to market themselves as above fast food.
  - wutbrodo 9y ago
    > and is gently asserting a point that this distinction is not to be believed. > McDonald's is qualitatively the same as food from many fast food restaurants that try to market themselves as above fast food. This assumes incorrectly that the only use of the distinction is a one-dimensional measure of quality. A couple of uses for the distinction that have nothing to do with "quality": 1) I don't tend to eat at chain restaurants much because I don't tend to eat at the same restaurants much (ie, I really like variety). This was pretty much true even for the few years that I ate every single weekend meal at restaurants (or takeout). 2) Part of chain restaurants' explicit goal is mass appeal and consistency of taste. Practically by definition, you're less likely to find the niche of flavor that appeals to you the most directly, or even as high a level of novelty and diversity of flavor as you would if going to holes in the wall. 3) I'm cheating a little bit making this a separate bullet pt, but #2 works the other way as well, since some people explicitly prefer consistency of flavor and knowing exactly what to expect to being adventurous about flavors and tastes. This isn't a value judgment: I had a girlfriend who described her taste as preferring bland food and there's no real basis for me to claim that I had "better" taste than her. It occurs to me that these examples are all pretty tightly related to the notion of chain restaurants providing consistency and mass appeal, but that doesn't really change my point at all.

marak830 9y ago

I have a (serious) question, why don't you cook yourself? Is it more expensive to cook in your location? Lack of time? I have heard this argument a lot and am honestly wondering (I'm not from the us, I'm a chef, so for me things may be a lot different, hence the question).

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