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> There is no other language, for example, that is close enough to English that we can get about half of what people are saying without training and the rest wi
by TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago
> There is no other language, for example, that is close enough to English that we can get about half of what people are saying without training and the rest with only modest effort.
…uh, French? English has such a huge amount of French vocabulary that it does not take a huge amount of effort for an English speaker like me to, say, read a Wikipedia page in French, despite my limited knowledge of the language. Pronunciation is a different matter, however, that's true.
> it’s us who are odd: almost all European languages belong to one family – Indo-European – and of all of them, English is the only one that doesn’t assign genders that way.
Might be weird from an Indo-European perspective. But consider this: firstly, it's not like other IE languages' grammatical gender isn't being simplified. Maybe it hasn't been eliminated yet, but English is not a complete oddball here.
Second, lacking grammatical gender is hardly unusual once you go outside Indo-European!
> There is exactly one language on Earth whose present tense requires a special ending only in the third‑person singular.
English has a small and not very expressive set of verb inflections, okay. It's not alone there. Yes, maybe other languages don't have inflections limited in that specific way, but that kind of specificity is far from unusual.
> English started out as, essentially, a kind of German.
Well… Germanic doesn't really mean German. Old English does look somewhat familiar to a German speaker, though.
> In linguistics circles it’s risky to call one language ‘easier’ than another one, for there is no single metric by which we can determine objective rankings. But even if there is no bright line between day and night, we’d never pretend there’s no difference between life at 10am and life at 10pm.
Languages are not “easier” or “harder” in isolation. What matters is how similar a language is to those already know. The author does nothing to refute this and comes up with the bizarre concept that “English is ‘easier’ than other Germanic languages”… how so? I could make a convincing argument that English is significantly harder than other Germanic languages, for instance.
> normal languages don’t dangle prepositions in this way
What's the author's idea of “normal” here? Latin?
> the has no specifically masculine form to match man […] strangeness
Arabic has no masculine form of “the”. Is it weird?
> English got hit by a firehose spray of words from yet more languages
As opposed to other languages, which never import possibly duplicative vocabulary en masse? Japanese has a lot of Chinese vocabulary alongside native words, for an easy example. And this is hardly unique to Japan.
> The very idea of etymology being a polyglot smorgasbord, each word a fascinating story of migration and exchange, seems everyday to us. But the roots of a great many languages are much duller.
But the roots of a great many other languages are similarly interesting!
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This tells you various interesting (and correct!) facts about English's history which a student of historical linguistics could tell you, and maybe that's good, it could get more people interested in the subject! It utterly fails at proving its thesis though. English is a bit of an outlier, but it's not a unique one. Of course, you could argue that no other language has the same combination of weirdnesses, but that's because they're different languages!
- eridius 9y ago> English has such a huge amount of French vocabulary that it does not take a huge amount of effort for an English speaker like me to, say, read a Wikipedia page in French, despite my limited knowledge of the language. I just tested this out. I visited https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random and tried to understand the page I got. I ended up on https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conte_licencieux https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conte_licencieux and I really have no idea what that page is about. There's a bunch of random words I can understand, but it's not even close to enough to figure out what's going on. > > normal languages don’t dangle prepositions in this way > What's the author's idea of “normal” here? Latin? The article made that quite clear. On the subject of dangling prepositions, it said there were only 2 other languages besides English that allowed them (an indigenous language in Mexico and one in Siberia). > Arabic has no masculine form of “the”. Is it weird? The context of that sentence is the changes that Norse made to Old English. Prior to the Norse influence, the implication is that English had gendered articles. And more generally, Indo-European languages (of which Arabic is not one) have gendered nouns and articles, except for English. It looks to me like you're cherry-picking sentences and trying to refute them, but by taking them out of context you're actually just turning them into straw men.
- jdmichal 9y ago> The article made that quite clear. On the subject of dangling prepositions, it said there were only 2 other languages besides English that allowed them (an indigenous language in Mexico and one in Siberia). Which is not the complete story, at all. English "dangling" prepositions are a direct lineage from Germanic separable verbs, which also still exist in at least German and Dutch. Ich fahre jetzt ab. -- The "ab" is a preposition, just kind of hanging out at the end of the sentence. It is, in fact, part of the verb, where "ab·fahren" means "to leave". The example given, "Which town do you come from?", could be analyzed as exactly analogous, where the verb is actually "to come from".
- eridius 9y ago> where the verb is actually "to come from". I'm not sure what you mean by this, because "to come from" isn't a verb, and you can't simply declare that it is. Also FWIW, upon re-reading the article, it says Danish actually also has this (more specifically, it said Old Norse allowed for this, "which Danish retains"). So I guess it's 4 languages, not 3. Not that that really makes any difference here, since the whole point is that dangling prepositions are rather exceptional and nearly all languages don't allow them.