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The problem is - even on sites where you pay to see content (nyt, wsj, etc), they still show you ads, to a paying logged in subscriber, which is completely ridi

The problem is - even on sites where you pay to see content (nyt, wsj, etc), they still show you ads, to a paying logged in subscriber, which is completely ridiculous.

barking 9y ago
The telegraph in the UK does this, they even show you a full screen Matt cartoon that begs you to turn off adblocker, on EVERY new tab/window. Even if you're a paying customer.
sangnoir 9y ago
Is it ridiculous though? People buy newspapers (nyt, wsj, etc) and they always had ads in them since time immemorial. The same goes for magazines and cable/satellite TV.
- alexanderdmitri 9y ago
  This is what I remember the Washington Post looking like when I read it back in the 90's: http://large.stanford.edu/prizes/nobel/news/wp/images/wpbig.jpg http://large.stanford.edu/prizes/nobel/news/wp/images/wpbig.... I don't remember ever seeing ads mixed in with the main content. I think it was general practice to section them off somewhere else or put them in the classifieds. Compare with: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/10/22/the-nobel-committee-got-it-wrong-ngugi-wa-thiongo-is-the-writer-the-world-needs-right-now/?utm_term=.4e466392ab6b https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/... Then check out the parties sending js to your browser behind the scene. Apples and oranges IMO.
  - pcl 9y ago
    I saw no ads on your second link. Then I remembered I have my ad blocker enabled...
    - alexanderdmitri 9y ago
      These two scripts seem to have found good workarounds for my current ad-blocker's attempts: https://js.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/rum/wprum.min.js https://js.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/rum/wprum.min.js https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/ad/zeus/wp-ad.min.js https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/ad/zeus/wp-ad.min.js Looking at the output from the browser's console log on this page has me feeling like advertisers and analytics are a pretty gropey bunch. No means no, stop trying to touch my local storage!

The problem is - even on sites where you pay to see content (nyt, wsj, etc), they still show you ads, to a paying logged in subscriber, which is completely ridiculous.

barking 9y ago

The telegraph in the UK does this, they even show you a full screen Matt cartoon that begs you to turn off adblocker, on EVERY new tab/window. Even if you're a paying customer.

sangnoir 9y ago

Is it ridiculous though? People buy newspapers (nyt, wsj, etc) and they always had ads in them since time immemorial. The same goes for magazines and cable/satellite TV.

alexanderdmitri 9y ago
This is what I remember the Washington Post looking like when I read it back in the 90's: http://large.stanford.edu/prizes/nobel/news/wp/images/wpbig.jpg http://large.stanford.edu/prizes/nobel/news/wp/images/wpbig.... I don't remember ever seeing ads mixed in with the main content. I think it was general practice to section them off somewhere else or put them in the classifieds. Compare with: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/10/22/the-nobel-committee-got-it-wrong-ngugi-wa-thiongo-is-the-writer-the-world-needs-right-now/?utm_term=.4e466392ab6b https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/... Then check out the parties sending js to your browser behind the scene. Apples and oranges IMO.
- pcl 9y ago
  I saw no ads on your second link. Then I remembered I have my ad blocker enabled...
  - alexanderdmitri 9y ago
    These two scripts seem to have found good workarounds for my current ad-blocker's attempts: https://js.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/rum/wprum.min.js https://js.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/rum/wprum.min.js https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/ad/zeus/wp-ad.min.js https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/ad/zeus/wp-ad.min.js Looking at the output from the browser's console log on this page has me feeling like advertisers and analytics are a pretty gropey bunch. No means no, stop trying to touch my local storage!