> since when does development tell ops [deployment details]? Not to be cheeky, but since "devops"! Docker, Kuburnetes, etc... all of these things live on the

> since when does development tell ops [deployment details]? Not to be cheeky, but since "devops"! Docker, Kuburnetes, etc... all of these things live on the point of intersection between developers and operations. Some of the config artifacts (e.g. dockerfiles) typically live in source control, which is usually the domain of developers. But the values with which they're populated are typically set by operations. It is indeed a dance that the two groups have to work out among themselves, and different organizations will handle it differently. Ultimately, I think you find that it really isn't FUNDAMENTALLY different from the dance that they already do in the old school. There will always have to be a handshake, where dynamic values are stored someplace and code knows to point to that place. How you handle that handshake is ultimately a human process thing.