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It's really dumb and patronizing to believe that people who won't leave your organization chasing a dream are automatically your dumpy leftovers. A lack of ambi

It's really dumb and patronizing to believe that people who won't leave your organization chasing a dream are automatically your dumpy leftovers. A lack of ambition doesn't imply a lack of skill.

pm90 9y ago
> A lack of ambition doesn't imply a lack of skill. This is a very astute observation. I've worked with many really great engineers who wouldn't switch jobs even if they could command a better compensation... because they are happy with their work and compensation. Doesn't stop them from being great engineers or constantly learning/adapting to new technologies.
- ryandrake 9y ago
  A lack of ambition does not necessarily imply a lack of skill but it often does, often enough to result in the "Dead Sea Effect" the author refers to. I've seen it over and over at just about every company I've worked. The people who are really good and have the best career options tend to take those options, leaving behind SOME people who are also really good, but mostly people who don't have the option to leave.
  - arwhatever 9y ago
    To continue the metaphor, the actual Dead See does still have some water in it.
    - arwhatever 9y ago
      sea
watwut 9y ago
I actually enjoy work more after being at the team a bit longer - after I proved myself and they trust me. When you change the team/company, there is that period when they do not trust you and you have to be proving yourself constantly + dealing with colleagues who try whether you are suitable for being micromanaged or try to socialize by picking on you etc. I like the work much more once these factors are settled - e.g. once I established boundaries and once I am trusted.
maxxxxx 9y ago
That's a really weird trend. I am seeing this in my company right now and have seen it before as freelancer. A lot of managers distrust the people who have been working for them for a long time. It seems the longer they work for these managers the less respect they get.

It's really dumb and patronizing to believe that people who won't leave your organization chasing a dream are automatically your dumpy leftovers. A lack of ambition doesn't imply a lack of skill.

pm90 9y ago

> A lack of ambition doesn't imply a lack of skill. This is a very astute observation. I've worked with many really great engineers who wouldn't switch jobs even if they could command a better compensation... because they are happy with their work and compensation. Doesn't stop them from being great engineers or constantly learning/adapting to new technologies.

ryandrake 9y ago
A lack of ambition does not necessarily imply a lack of skill but it often does, often enough to result in the "Dead Sea Effect" the author refers to. I've seen it over and over at just about every company I've worked. The people who are really good and have the best career options tend to take those options, leaving behind SOME people who are also really good, but mostly people who don't have the option to leave.
- arwhatever 9y ago
  To continue the metaphor, the actual Dead See does still have some water in it.
  - arwhatever 9y ago
    sea

watwut 9y ago

I actually enjoy work more after being at the team a bit longer - after I proved myself and they trust me. When you change the team/company, there is that period when they do not trust you and you have to be proving yourself constantly + dealing with colleagues who try whether you are suitable for being micromanaged or try to socialize by picking on you etc. I like the work much more once these factors are settled - e.g. once I established boundaries and once I am trusted.

maxxxxx 9y ago

That's a really weird trend. I am seeing this in my company right now and have seen it before as freelancer. A lot of managers distrust the people who have been working for them for a long time. It seems the longer they work for these managers the less respect they get.