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Yes, but the existence of ssh on chrome makes it much much easier to teach a windows user how to try out the linux command line. PuTTY is annoying as hell to he

Yes, but the existence of ssh on chrome makes it much much easier to teach a windows user how to try out the linux command line. PuTTY is annoying as hell to help a new person get working and they might not have enough space for vagrant+virtualbox.

ThomasGeek 9y ago
On windows, you no longer need either with bash for windows you can have a near complete linux experience while running inside windows natively.
- afarrell 9y ago
  If you can assure me that is the case, fantastic! Do you know of a way to test the UX of ssh from bash for windows for less than $5 ?
  - chuckdries 9y ago
    "Ubuntu on Windows" as they're calling it now is free, enabled via the control panel, and provides a near perfect bash experience. I use it on the desktop I built for VR to SSH into my digital ocean droplets all the time. Super easy to use, just open powershell, run `bash`, then you can run `ssh` like normal. You have access to your windows files with /mnt/c and etc. for additional drives. The only issue is that Powershell doesn't support the full gamut of colors that Bash does, but that support is coming in the fall creators update and frankly it works fine with every Vim and zsh color scheme I've tested. 10/10 developing for the web on windows is finally tolerable
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  - simonh 9y ago
    I don't know enough about ssh for Chrome and bash for Windows to get your point. Isn't bash for Windows (as part of WSL?) free? What is it that costs more than $5 using bash for windows but is free with ssh for Chrome? Genuinely interested, I'm on OSX mostly but I'm WSL curious.
    - philh 9y ago
      I interpreted that as them not having access to a Windows machine and wanting to try out the experience for themselves before attempting to teach someone else.
      - BenjiWiebe 9y ago
        I suppose you could run a modern.ie image and use WSL in that.
  - pletnes 9y ago
    Git bash comes with ssh. Cygwin has ssh as an optional install. Msys2 too. Of course, you need to have windows first. MS give away 30-day win 10 trial VM images with git bash installed, or at least they did.
  - afarrell 9y ago
    I..should have clarified that I don't have easy access to a windows machine and don't have access at all to one that I can install stuff on.
aargh_aargh 9y ago
Just curious - why do you think PuTTY is annoying?
- fb03 9y ago
  I love PuTTY, but my best PuTTY is actually KiTTY, since it saves profiles in a local config file instead of the ominous Windows Registry. Much easier to move around :-) http://www.9bis.net/kitty/ http://www.9bis.net/kitty/
- afarrell 9y ago
  I wish I'd done a UI critique of it back when I was doing the relevant teaching.
cat199 9y ago
PuTTY is annoying as hell to help a new person get working Seriously? There are like 12389127381789 how to guides about how to do it, and it is literally like 3 steps. Do you really think the person who has problems starting putty is going to thrive in a CLI environment?
- lloeki 9y ago
  PuTTY's UI is an ass-backward mess (and that's mildly put) and the fact that you're used to put up with it or that there exists five Knuth's arrows worth of guides doesn't change that. In fact the latter is probably a testimony of it all. I've used it for years, know it by heart, still hate it, and am pretty well served by and versed in the unix terminal universe, TY. PuTTY has been useful for sure but that was by scarcity as there was basically no alternative on Windows for a decade or more.

ThomasGeek 9y ago

On windows, you no longer need either with bash for windows you can have a near complete linux experience while running inside windows natively.

afarrell 9y ago
If you can assure me that is the case, fantastic! Do you know of a way to test the UX of ssh from bash for windows for less than $5 ?
- chuckdries 9y ago
  "Ubuntu on Windows" as they're calling it now is free, enabled via the control panel, and provides a near perfect bash experience. I use it on the desktop I built for VR to SSH into my digital ocean droplets all the time. Super easy to use, just open powershell, run `bash`, then you can run `ssh` like normal. You have access to your windows files with /mnt/c and etc. for additional drives. The only issue is that Powershell doesn't support the full gamut of colors that Bash does, but that support is coming in the fall creators update and frankly it works fine with every Vim and zsh color scheme I've tested. 10/10 developing for the web on windows is finally tolerable
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- simonh 9y ago
  I don't know enough about ssh for Chrome and bash for Windows to get your point. Isn't bash for Windows (as part of WSL?) free? What is it that costs more than $5 using bash for windows but is free with ssh for Chrome? Genuinely interested, I'm on OSX mostly but I'm WSL curious.
  - philh 9y ago
    I interpreted that as them not having access to a Windows machine and wanting to try out the experience for themselves before attempting to teach someone else.
    - BenjiWiebe 9y ago
      I suppose you could run a modern.ie image and use WSL in that.
- pletnes 9y ago
  Git bash comes with ssh. Cygwin has ssh as an optional install. Msys2 too. Of course, you need to have windows first. MS give away 30-day win 10 trial VM images with git bash installed, or at least they did.
- afarrell 9y ago
  I..should have clarified that I don't have easy access to a windows machine and don't have access at all to one that I can install stuff on.

aargh_aargh 9y ago

Just curious - why do you think PuTTY is annoying?

fb03 9y ago
I love PuTTY, but my best PuTTY is actually KiTTY, since it saves profiles in a local config file instead of the ominous Windows Registry. Much easier to move around :-) http://www.9bis.net/kitty/ http://www.9bis.net/kitty/
afarrell 9y ago
I wish I'd done a UI critique of it back when I was doing the relevant teaching.

cat199 9y ago

PuTTY is annoying as hell to help a new person get working Seriously? There are like 12389127381789 how to guides about how to do it, and it is literally like 3 steps. Do you really think the person who has problems starting putty is going to thrive in a CLI environment?

lloeki 9y ago
PuTTY's UI is an ass-backward mess (and that's mildly put) and the fact that you're used to put up with it or that there exists five Knuth's arrows worth of guides doesn't change that. In fact the latter is probably a testimony of it all. I've used it for years, know it by heart, still hate it, and am pretty well served by and versed in the unix terminal universe, TY. PuTTY has been useful for sure but that was by scarcity as there was basically no alternative on Windows for a decade or more.