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Penrose is not arguing that the human mind is illogical. He is arguing that it is uncomputable, which is a big difference. In particular, he's saying that the
by Chronos 9y ago
Penrose is not arguing that the human mind is illogical. He is arguing that it is uncomputable, which is a big difference.
In particular, he's saying that the human mind is capable of outputting true statements that cannot be proven to be true via any bounded number of proof steps. I don't disagree with that.
However, given that the human mind is capable of outputting false statements -- witness this conversation, wherein at least one of us is outputting false statements -- Penrose has failed to prove that the human mind is non-Gödelian, i.e. can output all the true statements that exist, while outputting no false ones.