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The "real" AR might be the shared experience of location-based spawning of Pokemon, Pokecenters, arenas, etc. especially based on real landmarks.
by asperous 9y ago
The "real" AR might be the shared experience of location-based spawning of Pokemon, Pokecenters, arenas, etc. especially based on real landmarks.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoSure, but then that's not anything new. Any persistent-world multiplayer game would qualify, and if you want to focus on real-world locations, then there's at least Ingress. Also, last time I checked, Pokémon spawning wasn't synchronized. There's close to zero shared world state between the player (only the static - spawn zones, Pokéstop locations, Gym location and status - and lure). Anyway, to be clear: I'm not complaining about the game itself - just about abusing the term "AR" to describe it.
- erroneousfunk 9y agoI might be mistaken about what you mean by "spawning wasn't synchronized" but if I see a Pokemon pop up, I know that whoever I'm playing with will see the same one in the same place. That's a huge part of the fun of the game.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoI'm not sure if that is true now; it definitely wasn't true a few months ago when I played it. Spawn locations are shared - i.e. everyone sees the same probability distribution of finding a particular Pokémon in a given spot. But if you saw one spawn, your friend won't see the same one because this was not synchronized. It was entirely local to a player. So you couldn't e.g. steal a Pokémon from someone else trying to get it too.
- asperous 9y agoI think ever since it came out Pokemon spawned in the same exact place for everyone (hense cheating tools came about like maps that showed where all the pokemon are), but yeah you couldn't "steal" pokemon, everyone can catch the same pokemon which makes for videos like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XnTDcQZjY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XnTDcQZjY
- TeMPOraL 9y agoYeah, that's what I meant.
- GuiA 9y agoThis thread reminded me of: "Recently I went with my nephew to hunt Pokémon. We were walking down the street and a bunch of kids approached us. They were also hunting Pokemon. My nephew and these children got into a bit of a fight because they were trying to capture the same invisible creatures. It seemed strange to me. But these Pokémon were very real to the children. And then it hit me: This is just like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict! You have two sides fighting over something that I cannot see. I look at the stones of buildings in Jerusalem and I just see stones. But Christians, Jews, and Muslims who look at the same stones see a holy city. It’s their imagination, but they are willing to kill for it. That’s virtual reality, too." https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/02/the-post-human-world/517206/ https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/02/the-pos...
- TeMPOraL 9y agoDoubly interesting given that, unless they were fighting for the ownership of a gym, there were no "same" invisible creatures - each player has their own Pokémon spawning, and that state is not shared between players.
- GuiA 9y agoGiven that the author isn't that familiar with Pokemon Go, it seems plausible that he could have gotten some mechanics confused.
- magic_beans 9y agoWhat a weak comparison. The Israelis and the Palestinians are fighting over a homeland. Humans have been fighting over land since the beginning of time.