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Is this to limit the HN effect whenever an issue is linked here and people just go "yeah +1" even if they don't actually read the discussion?

by speps 9y ago

andytruett 9y ago
yeah +1
michaelbuckbee 9y ago
That and "brigading" where someone directs a bunch of people to an issue from Twitter, Reddit, etc.
dom0 9y ago
Also for projects that regularly receive a good dose of Twitter hate (e.g. systemd).
- codefined 9y ago
  You mention systemd getting a lot of hate, but I've never had any problems myself with it or know anyone who has. What sort of things do people dislike about it?
  - nucleardog 9y ago
    They're fixing things that aren't obviously broken and have served us well for many, many years. That alone is enough to make me sit up and take notice. But in several cases they've then created issues this way. It's purportedly a replacement for Sysvinit/upstart. There's massive scope creep going on. Among a zillion other things, it now includes its own DHCP server. It's generally looked down upon to scrap an entire codebase because "eh, it's old legacy code, we can do better". And systemd is running into a lot of issues that demonstrate why that's a rule of thumb.
tedmiston 9y ago
I haven't seen that much since the emoji reaction +1 feature was introduced. I use the latter a lot though.
- acdha 9y ago
  The +1 reaction has helped a lot but I still useless +1 / -1 notification spam pretty regularly from people who haven't gotten the message.
  - derefr 9y ago
    Github could add an option for "pre-receive webhooks" for comments. Push them to a moderator HTTP bot that returns accept/reject.
    - acdha 9y ago
      I've also thought it'd be nice to have a way for repo members to quickly send a warning to someone without spamming the thread. In this case, it'd be nice to have a way to put a specific person into a cool down period.
      - tedmiston 9y ago
        Not sure if you're referring to it but they announced (roughly) the feature you described yesterday. Introducing temporary interaction limits - https://github.com/blog/2370-introducing-temporary-interaction-limits https://github.com/blog/2370-introducing-temporary-interacti...
        acdha 9y ago
        That was what started this conversation but the feature announced doesn't appear to have the specific user cool-down I was hoping for.
  - vanni 9y ago
    "people who haven't gotten the message" You cannot add emoji reaction from mobile version of Github website.
BinaryIdiot 9y ago
This is the only purpose I see and with reactions on every post now I don't really see it much anymore. Though, in a similar thought, it would prevent brigades from HN / reddit / etc if it's, say, an unpopular feature or change and it's at the top of their front page for a while. If it's a legit heated discussion and you limit it then you're just to come back in 24 hours to very long, impossible to follow responses. At least this has been my experience when people have left things to cool down them come back and need to respond to everything.

Is this to limit the HN effect whenever an issue is linked here and people just go "yeah +1" even if they don't actually read the discussion?

by speps 9y ago

Is this to limit the HN effect whenever an issue is linked here and people just go "yeah +1" even if they don't actually read the discussion?

andytruett 9y ago

yeah +1

michaelbuckbee 9y ago

That and "brigading" where someone directs a bunch of people to an issue from Twitter, Reddit, etc.

dom0 9y ago

Also for projects that regularly receive a good dose of Twitter hate (e.g. systemd).

codefined 9y ago
You mention systemd getting a lot of hate, but I've never had any problems myself with it or know anyone who has. What sort of things do people dislike about it?
- nucleardog 9y ago
  They're fixing things that aren't obviously broken and have served us well for many, many years. That alone is enough to make me sit up and take notice. But in several cases they've then created issues this way. It's purportedly a replacement for Sysvinit/upstart. There's massive scope creep going on. Among a zillion other things, it now includes its own DHCP server. It's generally looked down upon to scrap an entire codebase because "eh, it's old legacy code, we can do better". And systemd is running into a lot of issues that demonstrate why that's a rule of thumb.

tedmiston 9y ago

I haven't seen that much since the emoji reaction +1 feature was introduced. I use the latter a lot though.

acdha 9y ago
The +1 reaction has helped a lot but I still useless +1 / -1 notification spam pretty regularly from people who haven't gotten the message.
- derefr 9y ago
  Github could add an option for "pre-receive webhooks" for comments. Push them to a moderator HTTP bot that returns accept/reject.
  - acdha 9y ago
    I've also thought it'd be nice to have a way for repo members to quickly send a warning to someone without spamming the thread. In this case, it'd be nice to have a way to put a specific person into a cool down period.
    - tedmiston 9y ago
      Not sure if you're referring to it but they announced (roughly) the feature you described yesterday. Introducing temporary interaction limits - https://github.com/blog/2370-introducing-temporary-interaction-limits https://github.com/blog/2370-introducing-temporary-interacti...
      - acdha 9y ago
        That was what started this conversation but the feature announced doesn't appear to have the specific user cool-down I was hoping for.
- vanni 9y ago
  "people who haven't gotten the message" You cannot add emoji reaction from mobile version of Github website.

BinaryIdiot 9y ago

This is the only purpose I see and with reactions on every post now I don't really see it much anymore. Though, in a similar thought, it would prevent brigades from HN / reddit / etc if it's, say, an unpopular feature or change and it's at the top of their front page for a while. If it's a legit heated discussion and you limit it then you're just to come back in 24 hours to very long, impossible to follow responses. At least this has been my experience when people have left things to cool down them come back and need to respond to everything.