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Let's take the question of the human mind and whether it can be modeled by a non-quantum Turing machine out of the equation. Penrose's contention can be summed
by manyoso 9y ago
Let's take the question of the human mind and whether it can be modeled by a non-quantum Turing machine out of the equation.
Penrose's contention can be summed up without it. He basically thinks that gravity will be discovered to play a role in quantum wave function collapse. And that this role will render non-quantum Turing machines incapable of accurately modeling quantum gravity in some very serious way. Another way of saying it is that he believes when a real theory of quantum gravity is developed we'll find that non-quantum Turing machines will not be able to accurately model the physics of a black hole.
Note that this says nothing whatsoever about the human mind or microtubes or formal systems, etc. This is about his subject of expertise: gravity, mathematical physics, and quantum gravity. He's one of the world's leading experts in these fields.
And if he is right, he conjectures it will have strong implications for non-quantum Turing machines as a basis for Strong AI.
- mcguire 9y agoThat's a good point. I'm tempted to point out that quantum computers can currently be emulated by classical computers, but that may be beside the point.
- manyoso 9y agoYes, quantum supremecy has not been demonstrated, but the question of whether non-quantum Turing machines can accurately model all physical laws has not. Of course, we don't even have a quantum theory of gravity for them to model at this point...
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