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The attitude in this blog post is exactly the kind of attitude that drives users and developers away. Ramming the Store down desktop users throats isn't exactly

by a2tech 9y ago

The attitude in this blog post is exactly the kind of attitude that drives users and developers away. Ramming the Store down desktop users throats isn't exactly customer focused.

ductionist 9y ago
There's definitely pushback on Microsoft from users who don't want the Store. But how would Microsoft making the Store more widely-used push away developers?
- remline 9y ago
  Helping porters of your opensource project to a platform is counterproductive if it will have a marketplace with commercial participants encouraging cost barriers to entry.
UK-AL 9y ago
Most customers the store is targeted probably appreciate the store. You are pro user, so you value freedom. Normal users want safety and convience.
- phr4ts 9y ago
  As a Windows and Windows Phone user, this is my take: Pro users and normal users both want convenience. For pro users, key shortcuts and cli serves this purpose. Take the chrome store for example. It's light-ish and loads pretty fast. It's very easy to download, store and distribute chrome extensions. The same cannot be said for the Windows Store. It inherits and extends every problem windows update. (Spits random errors that make no sense to normal users: error 0x239akd. The date on the machine, country setting, language setting can trigger errors.) The store is SLOW unless you're using broadband. Microsoft has made it virtually impossible to download, store and distribute store apps. With desktop apps, I can download the exe file on my work computer and install on my home computer - not possible with store apps. Originally, the windows store a font 9px download link hidden at the bottom. I once downloaded a 2GB game from the store only to get home and it refused to install. Summary: Microsoft has built several walls around their marketplace but are confused as to why people aren't rushing in.
  - WorldMaker 9y ago
    Appx sideloading has gotten much, much better since the Windows 10 Anniversary update. Copy a signed appx file to a machine, double click, and you get a nice, simple installer dialog. As easy, if not easier (no UAC prompt, for instance), than double clicking an EXE or MSI file. Yes, it might be nice if the Windows Store made it easier to get Appx files for apps for scenarios like "download at work and install at home". (Though I think Microsoft's current focus is more on the side of "tell my machine at home to go ahead and download the app while I'm at work" scenarios, between Xbox already prioritizing that and some of the things they are working on with "Project Rome"/the Microsoft Graph.)

by a2tech 9y ago

The attitude in this blog post is exactly the kind of attitude that drives users and developers away. Ramming the Store down desktop users throats isn't exactly customer focused.

ductionist 9y ago

There's definitely pushback on Microsoft from users who don't want the Store. But how would Microsoft making the Store more widely-used push away developers?

remline 9y ago
Helping porters of your opensource project to a platform is counterproductive if it will have a marketplace with commercial participants encouraging cost barriers to entry.

UK-AL 9y ago

Most customers the store is targeted probably appreciate the store. You are pro user, so you value freedom. Normal users want safety and convience.

phr4ts 9y ago
As a Windows and Windows Phone user, this is my take: Pro users and normal users both want convenience. For pro users, key shortcuts and cli serves this purpose. Take the chrome store for example. It's light-ish and loads pretty fast. It's very easy to download, store and distribute chrome extensions. The same cannot be said for the Windows Store. It inherits and extends every problem windows update. (Spits random errors that make no sense to normal users: error 0x239akd. The date on the machine, country setting, language setting can trigger errors.) The store is SLOW unless you're using broadband. Microsoft has made it virtually impossible to download, store and distribute store apps. With desktop apps, I can download the exe file on my work computer and install on my home computer - not possible with store apps. Originally, the windows store a font 9px download link hidden at the bottom. I once downloaded a 2GB game from the store only to get home and it refused to install. Summary: Microsoft has built several walls around their marketplace but are confused as to why people aren't rushing in.
- WorldMaker 9y ago
  Appx sideloading has gotten much, much better since the Windows 10 Anniversary update. Copy a signed appx file to a machine, double click, and you get a nice, simple installer dialog. As easy, if not easier (no UAC prompt, for instance), than double clicking an EXE or MSI file. Yes, it might be nice if the Windows Store made it easier to get Appx files for apps for scenarios like "download at work and install at home". (Though I think Microsoft's current focus is more on the side of "tell my machine at home to go ahead and download the app while I'm at work" scenarios, between Xbox already prioritizing that and some of the things they are working on with "Project Rome"/the Microsoft Graph.)