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> smartphone makers from being able to blacklist devices that are resold What is that blacklist?

by euyyn 9y ago

AdmiralAsshat 9y ago
http://www.howtochoosealaptop.com/silent-circle-is-blocking-the-blackphone-2-unauthorized-sellers/ http://www.howtochoosealaptop.com/silent-circle-is-blocking-...
blacksmith_tb 9y ago
I am guessing this is a reference to some Google Pixel phones that were resold when they first hit the market[1]. 1: http://wccftech.com/google-blacklist-pixel-project-fi/ http://wccftech.com/google-blacklist-pixel-project-fi/
elipsey 9y ago
Verizon denied my activation of used phones a couple of times due to a blacklisted IMEI, so apparently they (at least used to) keep an internal blacklist also.
- tooltalk 9y ago
  I thought the blacklist was for only stolen or lost devices reported by the first owner.
- twoodfin 9y ago
  Verizon owns their network, so I'd imagine they have pretty broad discretion (FCC-willing) on restricting the specific devices they'd allow on it. Blacklisting IMEI's seems like a pretty reasonable theft deterrent.
  - deleted 9y ago
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- LeifCarrotson 9y ago
  Are you sure it was specifically blacklisted? It wasn't "not whitelisted"? When I gave my developer edition Galaxy S3 to a friend, having bought it unlocked and used it on Sprint, I had a dickens of a time trying to help them use it on Verizon. Eventually, the answer I got was not that it was different from the version they were selling, nor was it incompatible at the radio level or otherwise wouldn't work on their network, nor did they think it was stolen or otherwise blacklisted, but that the IMEI wasn't prefilled in Verizon's database and they wouldn't add it because we didn't buy it there. Verizon lost a customer that day. Since then, between myself and my friend and our families, we've probably paid in $6,000 to other carriers in the last 36 months.
  - forgottenpass 9y ago
    that the IMEI wasn't prefilled in Verizon's database and they wouldn't add it because we didn't buy it there. FWIW, This filter applies at the point of activating a SIM card, not moving a SIM from a phone they would activate to one that "doesn't work" on their network.

> smartphone makers from being able to blacklist devices that are resold What is that blacklist?

by euyyn 9y ago

> smartphone makers from being able to blacklist devices that are resold What is that blacklist?

http://www.howtochoosealaptop.com/silent-circle-is-blocking-the-blackphone-2-unauthorized-sellers/ http://www.howtochoosealaptop.com/silent-circle-is-blocking-...

blacksmith_tb 9y ago

I am guessing this is a reference to some Google Pixel phones that were resold when they first hit the market[1]. 1: http://wccftech.com/google-blacklist-pixel-project-fi/ http://wccftech.com/google-blacklist-pixel-project-fi/

elipsey 9y ago

Verizon denied my activation of used phones a couple of times due to a blacklisted IMEI, so apparently they (at least used to) keep an internal blacklist also.

tooltalk 9y ago
I thought the blacklist was for only stolen or lost devices reported by the first owner.
twoodfin 9y ago
Verizon owns their network, so I'd imagine they have pretty broad discretion (FCC-willing) on restricting the specific devices they'd allow on it. Blacklisting IMEI's seems like a pretty reasonable theft deterrent.
- deleted 9y ago
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LeifCarrotson 9y ago
Are you sure it was specifically blacklisted? It wasn't "not whitelisted"? When I gave my developer edition Galaxy S3 to a friend, having bought it unlocked and used it on Sprint, I had a dickens of a time trying to help them use it on Verizon. Eventually, the answer I got was not that it was different from the version they were selling, nor was it incompatible at the radio level or otherwise wouldn't work on their network, nor did they think it was stolen or otherwise blacklisted, but that the IMEI wasn't prefilled in Verizon's database and they wouldn't add it because we didn't buy it there. Verizon lost a customer that day. Since then, between myself and my friend and our families, we've probably paid in $6,000 to other carriers in the last 36 months.
- forgottenpass 9y ago
  that the IMEI wasn't prefilled in Verizon's database and they wouldn't add it because we didn't buy it there. FWIW, This filter applies at the point of activating a SIM card, not moving a SIM from a phone they would activate to one that "doesn't work" on their network.