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I hope you are kidding. If you aren't, then you're falling into the same us-vs-them mentality that led to the persecution of Jews during WWII and racism against

I hope you are kidding. If you aren't, then you're falling into the same us-vs-them mentality that led to the persecution of Jews during WWII and racism against blacks in America. This method of pushing against literally half of the entire population will lead to backlash against those who think like you, distracting from real social problems that could actually be addressed.

zepto 9y ago
My statement was exaggerated to make it obvious that I was employing humor. I'm doing exactly the thing that you are claiming isn't problematic, and yet you somehow don't like it. And now you are complaining about people falling into an us-vs-then mentality while at simultaneously falling into an us-vs-them mentality yourself. What I actually think is that current social justice thinking is as harmful as you seem to imply but that the way you are responding to it is literally just as bad. We need an advance in our ways of thinking about this - not just un-thought-out reaction.
- TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
  I see. Just so you know, it's tough to portray subtle humor like that while being so succinct. There are many people who legitimately feel that way. I would like to point out that what I said and what you said were different. I spoke of norms and tendencies, while you took a black-and-white approach. I agree that there needs to be a middle ground found. Extremists on both sides make progress difficult.
  - zepto 9y ago
    What I did was to use a difference in psychology based on gender. Sure it was blunt and inaccurate, but psychology is generally pretty weak like this - see the replication crisis - so it is important to be careful not to use it out of context. You didn't speak of norms and tendencies. I'd like to point out that you have doubled down on the us-vs-them mentality. Extremists are doing absolutely nothing to prevent you from coming up with a better way of looking at this problem.

zepto 9y ago

My statement was exaggerated to make it obvious that I was employing humor. I'm doing exactly the thing that you are claiming isn't problematic, and yet you somehow don't like it. And now you are complaining about people falling into an us-vs-then mentality while at simultaneously falling into an us-vs-them mentality yourself. What I actually think is that current social justice thinking is as harmful as you seem to imply but that the way you are responding to it is literally just as bad. We need an advance in our ways of thinking about this - not just un-thought-out reaction.

TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
I see. Just so you know, it's tough to portray subtle humor like that while being so succinct. There are many people who legitimately feel that way. I would like to point out that what I said and what you said were different. I spoke of norms and tendencies, while you took a black-and-white approach. I agree that there needs to be a middle ground found. Extremists on both sides make progress difficult.
- zepto 9y ago
  What I did was to use a difference in psychology based on gender. Sure it was blunt and inaccurate, but psychology is generally pretty weak like this - see the replication crisis - so it is important to be careful not to use it out of context. You didn't speak of norms and tendencies. I'd like to point out that you have doubled down on the us-vs-them mentality. Extremists are doing absolutely nothing to prevent you from coming up with a better way of looking at this problem.