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I used to be like this. And the problem was, because there was no pattern to my sleep, I found out extremely difficult to sleep, even when I wanted to. A few t

I used to be like this. And the problem was, because there was no pattern to my sleep, I found out extremely difficult to sleep, even when I wanted to. A few things helped me. First, I started logging my sleep. It helped me analyze how much sleep I was really getting. Second, this sounds simplistic, but I first fixed the waking time. Irrespective of the time I sleep, I started waking up at the exact same time everyday. And finally, I stopping using all gadgets at least for 2 hours before my sleep time. I see a marked improvement in the quality of my sleep these days. Hope you beat your problem too.

graeme 9y ago
For the fixed wakeup time: 1. What do you do if in a situation where you'll get a low amount of sleep. Nap mid day? 2. What about social stuff? I'd love to get up at 8 am most days, but then any social event in the evening throws that off. Naps might fix the latter, but I have trouble napping due to onset insomnia. Unless I'm extremelt fatigued.
- jon-wood 9y ago
  Try having a kid ;) Ours gets me up between 6 and 7am every day. If I'm up late the night before I just end up going to be super early the next day and things even out.
- Cthulhu_ 9y ago
  Skip the naps; take the tiredness as punishment, go to bed at a fixed time. The trick is consistency, and a nap will interrupt said consistency. Usually you can function fine with a few hours less sleep, as long as it's not a regular event.
  - hammock 9y ago
    Punishment for having a good time Friday night until 6am, then waking up at 7am your usual time? Seems unreasonable
    - jodrellblank 9y ago
      You want to stick to a sleep schedule but also break it and still have it work the same? Seems unreasonable.
      - hammock 9y ago
        Was more referring to how he says don't nap. Why can't I wake up at 7 on Saturday and then have an afternoon nap I don't need "punishment" for something I want to do (stay out on Friday)
    - z3t4 9y ago
      those times its ok to sleep until 10 am. 4 hours of sleep will get you through the day. its important to not sleep too much or you will not be tired enough to fall asleep at night. i also want to add thats its better to get 6 hours of deep sleep then trying to sleep and basically awake whole night. and best tip to get tired is to wake up early and do some exercise during the day. also eat at the same times every day. routines x3
  - throwawayG77 9y ago
    Using throwaway. I nap only [ old age, 'striesand effect' in play having vehicles near me who would protect me, in a scheme to publicize my misery as violence and atoning for and disenrolling from my 12 16 formative years which was devoid of adults so survivors '3 siblings' could gain Straight As with the minimum of parental bullying (2) maternal side opted out of and had to work away til 9 pm nightly as 2 siblings and therapy [birth surgery ] provided care for my unknown-to-me specific syndrome I found online and within a past colleague as a new specification to be textbook/pdf's for once for the thousands of families awaiting outside Their ICU for... digressing. .......... skip the naps >> nap as if your life depended upon it. .......... Tiredness is from Satanic poverty and/or will wishes from hell. Pray. Attend. ...... Consistency... Attend often, do not expectation to diswelcome or its underpinnings, IE takeout food without lesser fortunate visitations en route. ..... And a nap will interrupt said consistency. Beggars cannot be choosers. [ begging, but beside the point... worthy of an AskYN if I find the button. Founders? ...... Usually your can function fine... see /r/medicine for the travails daily and deaths and missteps and grim reap what one will sow that infringes unwittingly factory like upon the health, in the background, of almost all who read this very post. .... Regular event, vs regular event and In Your Contract, as in prn [ a pay methodology, one is on call, on another site a medical avocation complained 2, 2 1/2, 2 2 1/2, 4 without, y with /im doommed ..... [ to which i cannot respond without throwawy, with the persons around me playing up my afflictions to my dismay and the annoyance of persons around me much shorter than myself who try to sleep in this area. ..... But I digress. I can contribute, but as we see above, other things are on the front burner and three back burners are placed upon my porch so I cannot get a second puppy. He might leashed fall into the coals, as I trip in darkness for our mutual exercise gingerly stepping among them. On the brighter side, beats the lawn ornaments red not flamingo in the house to the east of me. /// downvote please, dwells on stuff 90 percent [ of readers ] to forget as soon as one [ two of those 100, thank you very much for paying rapt attention to the Gasp today.] reads it. Please.
- tertius 9y ago
  Pick a time and stick to it. Doesn't matter how little sleep you get. It also helps to have a meal as soon as you get up. And meal is anything with calories in it. I.e. a cabbage leaf is fine. This helps reset your circadian rhythm (great for jetlag too).
  - graeme 9y ago
    I'm assuming this is just temporary and eventually it's just smooth sailing and you get sleepy? What do you do with social events etc though. Nap? Just be tired? If they're 1-2x per week I guess I'd need a later fixed time.
    - tertius 9y ago
      > I'm assuming this is just temporary and eventually it's just smooth sailing and you get sleepy? No, you pick something you want permanent and just do it. Eating early after waking is helpful. I drink tea with L-Theanine before bed and reduce blue light. I take melatonin when I really need it, which is rare. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22214254 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22214254 I'm not naturally an early riser. > What do you do with social events etc though. Nap? I eat low carb, I drink a lot of water and I exercise. Makes it a lot harder to be too tired to function. Only 4 hours of sleep? That's tough, rework your day to only do non creative things that don't require too much thinking. Admin, emails etc. I also have a 10 month old which helps me avoid social situations that are not valuable.
      - graeme 9y ago
        I guess I should have added the caveat that I want to be getting eight hours fairly consistently. How often would you say you have less. When doing heavy weight training, it's more or less a necessity. (No kid at this point, I'm sure that will change things once I do have once)
        tertius 9y ago
        > I guess I should have added the caveat that I want to be getting eight hours fairly consistently. How often would you say you have less. Right now, I'm sleep training a baby, so less. My goal is 7 hours and I really enjoy 8. And I can get this consistently. > When doing heavy weight training, it's more or less a necessity. I've been a gym rat for many years and I can attest to this. Not enough sleep and your tanks are empty, no power. > (No kid at this point, I'm sure that will change things once I do have once) Kids make you focus. You cut out things you wasted time on and you're back to where you were. Less time wasty, more family and relationship. Works out well.
- rorykoehler 9y ago
  I get to bed at a fixed time. If I haven't had enough sleep then I take a 15 minute coffee nap in the afternoon. Try exercise daily. Disclaimer: I'm a reformed night owl.

graeme 9y ago

For the fixed wakeup time: 1. What do you do if in a situation where you'll get a low amount of sleep. Nap mid day? 2. What about social stuff? I'd love to get up at 8 am most days, but then any social event in the evening throws that off. Naps might fix the latter, but I have trouble napping due to onset insomnia. Unless I'm extremelt fatigued.

jon-wood 9y ago
Try having a kid ;) Ours gets me up between 6 and 7am every day. If I'm up late the night before I just end up going to be super early the next day and things even out.
Cthulhu_ 9y ago
Skip the naps; take the tiredness as punishment, go to bed at a fixed time. The trick is consistency, and a nap will interrupt said consistency. Usually you can function fine with a few hours less sleep, as long as it's not a regular event.
- hammock 9y ago
  Punishment for having a good time Friday night until 6am, then waking up at 7am your usual time? Seems unreasonable
  - jodrellblank 9y ago
    You want to stick to a sleep schedule but also break it and still have it work the same? Seems unreasonable.
    - hammock 9y ago
      Was more referring to how he says don't nap. Why can't I wake up at 7 on Saturday and then have an afternoon nap I don't need "punishment" for something I want to do (stay out on Friday)
  - z3t4 9y ago
    those times its ok to sleep until 10 am. 4 hours of sleep will get you through the day. its important to not sleep too much or you will not be tired enough to fall asleep at night. i also want to add thats its better to get 6 hours of deep sleep then trying to sleep and basically awake whole night. and best tip to get tired is to wake up early and do some exercise during the day. also eat at the same times every day. routines x3
- throwawayG77 9y ago
  Using throwaway. I nap only [ old age, 'striesand effect' in play having vehicles near me who would protect me, in a scheme to publicize my misery as violence and atoning for and disenrolling from my 12 16 formative years which was devoid of adults so survivors '3 siblings' could gain Straight As with the minimum of parental bullying (2) maternal side opted out of and had to work away til 9 pm nightly as 2 siblings and therapy [birth surgery ] provided care for my unknown-to-me specific syndrome I found online and within a past colleague as a new specification to be textbook/pdf's for once for the thousands of families awaiting outside Their ICU for... digressing. .......... skip the naps >> nap as if your life depended upon it. .......... Tiredness is from Satanic poverty and/or will wishes from hell. Pray. Attend. ...... Consistency... Attend often, do not expectation to diswelcome or its underpinnings, IE takeout food without lesser fortunate visitations en route. ..... And a nap will interrupt said consistency. Beggars cannot be choosers. [ begging, but beside the point... worthy of an AskYN if I find the button. Founders? ...... Usually your can function fine... see /r/medicine for the travails daily and deaths and missteps and grim reap what one will sow that infringes unwittingly factory like upon the health, in the background, of almost all who read this very post. .... Regular event, vs regular event and In Your Contract, as in prn [ a pay methodology, one is on call, on another site a medical avocation complained 2, 2 1/2, 2 2 1/2, 4 without, y with /im doommed ..... [ to which i cannot respond without throwawy, with the persons around me playing up my afflictions to my dismay and the annoyance of persons around me much shorter than myself who try to sleep in this area. ..... But I digress. I can contribute, but as we see above, other things are on the front burner and three back burners are placed upon my porch so I cannot get a second puppy. He might leashed fall into the coals, as I trip in darkness for our mutual exercise gingerly stepping among them. On the brighter side, beats the lawn ornaments red not flamingo in the house to the east of me. /// downvote please, dwells on stuff 90 percent [ of readers ] to forget as soon as one [ two of those 100, thank you very much for paying rapt attention to the Gasp today.] reads it. Please.
tertius 9y ago
Pick a time and stick to it. Doesn't matter how little sleep you get. It also helps to have a meal as soon as you get up. And meal is anything with calories in it. I.e. a cabbage leaf is fine. This helps reset your circadian rhythm (great for jetlag too).
- graeme 9y ago
  I'm assuming this is just temporary and eventually it's just smooth sailing and you get sleepy? What do you do with social events etc though. Nap? Just be tired? If they're 1-2x per week I guess I'd need a later fixed time.
  - tertius 9y ago
    > I'm assuming this is just temporary and eventually it's just smooth sailing and you get sleepy? No, you pick something you want permanent and just do it. Eating early after waking is helpful. I drink tea with L-Theanine before bed and reduce blue light. I take melatonin when I really need it, which is rare. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22214254 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22214254 I'm not naturally an early riser. > What do you do with social events etc though. Nap? I eat low carb, I drink a lot of water and I exercise. Makes it a lot harder to be too tired to function. Only 4 hours of sleep? That's tough, rework your day to only do non creative things that don't require too much thinking. Admin, emails etc. I also have a 10 month old which helps me avoid social situations that are not valuable.
    - graeme 9y ago
      I guess I should have added the caveat that I want to be getting eight hours fairly consistently. How often would you say you have less. When doing heavy weight training, it's more or less a necessity. (No kid at this point, I'm sure that will change things once I do have once)
      - tertius 9y ago
        > I guess I should have added the caveat that I want to be getting eight hours fairly consistently. How often would you say you have less. Right now, I'm sleep training a baby, so less. My goal is 7 hours and I really enjoy 8. And I can get this consistently. > When doing heavy weight training, it's more or less a necessity. I've been a gym rat for many years and I can attest to this. Not enough sleep and your tanks are empty, no power. > (No kid at this point, I'm sure that will change things once I do have once) Kids make you focus. You cut out things you wasted time on and you're back to where you were. Less time wasty, more family and relationship. Works out well.
rorykoehler 9y ago
I get to bed at a fixed time. If I haven't had enough sleep then I take a 15 minute coffee nap in the afternoon. Try exercise daily. Disclaimer: I'm a reformed night owl.