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This is True, but just for genetating and selling electricity on a market. By contrast, Cycling or taking stairs can still make great economic sense, or even mu

by mowenz 9y ago

This is True, but just for genetating and selling electricity on a market. By contrast, Cycling or taking stairs can still make great economic sense, or even much better sense, than driving, when deciding to produce or purchase energy.

photojosh 9y ago
I sold our 2nd car, and just ride to work now. But if we just compare human fuel aka food with vehicle fuel, it's actually more expensive to ride! But it's all the other costs of owning a car that make it so much more expensive: depreciation, licensing, registration, maintenance, blah, blah.
- mowenz 9y ago
  Hmm depends on which fuel you choose to fill up with. Assuming we choose the cheapest option, a litre of clean burning canola oil can carry you 91km assuming 30 calories/km and 2750 calories/litre @ <$2/L that's a lot better than a car even before ownership and other per mile costs. But most people are in an unwanted caloric surplus so it's really even better than this for those people.
  - photojosh 9y ago
    I'm in Australia, and in our car it works out to about A$0.13/km in fuel. So yeah, you're right there. I choose not to drink pure canola oil because reasons. But if I did, my ride to work would be fueled by 30mL - so I could maybe just start taking a shot in the morning and a shot in the evening. Yummy.
    - mowenz 9y ago
      Haha - well if we're going to talk about practicality - it doesn't need to be as tasteless as that - it reminds me of the ultra endurance swimmers sucking hot oil through a tube. You can just make some delicious fried or oily snack, like crisps or chips or sauteed spinach, or fried what-have-you. ...but even a shot of oil is more healthy, pleasurable and hygenic (assuming you burn it all) than filling your tank with petrol :)
      - photojosh 9y ago
        I love endurance; riding and running. But even an hour swimmingly bores me to death, can't imagine doing those 10km+ swims. Hot oil through a tube... TIL and ewww.

by mowenz 9y ago

photojosh 9y ago

I sold our 2nd car, and just ride to work now. But if we just compare human fuel aka food with vehicle fuel, it's actually more expensive to ride! But it's all the other costs of owning a car that make it so much more expensive: depreciation, licensing, registration, maintenance, blah, blah.

mowenz 9y ago
Hmm depends on which fuel you choose to fill up with. Assuming we choose the cheapest option, a litre of clean burning canola oil can carry you 91km assuming 30 calories/km and 2750 calories/litre @ <$2/L that's a lot better than a car even before ownership and other per mile costs. But most people are in an unwanted caloric surplus so it's really even better than this for those people.
- photojosh 9y ago
  I'm in Australia, and in our car it works out to about A$0.13/km in fuel. So yeah, you're right there. I choose not to drink pure canola oil because reasons. But if I did, my ride to work would be fueled by 30mL - so I could maybe just start taking a shot in the morning and a shot in the evening. Yummy.
  - mowenz 9y ago
    Haha - well if we're going to talk about practicality - it doesn't need to be as tasteless as that - it reminds me of the ultra endurance swimmers sucking hot oil through a tube. You can just make some delicious fried or oily snack, like crisps or chips or sauteed spinach, or fried what-have-you. ...but even a shot of oil is more healthy, pleasurable and hygenic (assuming you burn it all) than filling your tank with petrol :)
    - photojosh 9y ago
      I love endurance; riding and running. But even an hour swimmingly bores me to death, can't imagine doing those 10km+ swims. Hot oil through a tube... TIL and ewww.