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In other words, does this amount to abuse of an already maximally efficient organ, resulting in short term gains in exchange for what amounts to injury or perha

In other words, does this amount to abuse of an already maximally efficient organ, resulting in short term gains in exchange for what amounts to injury or perhaps chronic subclinical injuries? From the abstract: based on the assumption that brain resources are subjected to the physical principle of conservation of energy Which is to say, nothing material is added to the equation, and thus, nothing useful is actually extracted. Conceptually, the idea is to question whether we're really just burning the candle at both ends, to get more light. Compare to steroid abuse in athletes, resulting in a statistically significant shortening of lifespan.

thriftwy 9y ago
I doubt this is true. There are smarter people and there are simpler ones. I guess they're in the same ballpark WRT energy usage. Could you turn the latter into the former? Why not?
- Mahn 9y ago
  But that's a different question, isn't it? We are talking about "overclocking" the brain, so to speak, not necessarily making one smarter or dumber. The speculation here (if I understand correctly) is that "overclocking" the brain has a cost somewhere, but that doesn't imply that smarter people are running "overclocked" brains per se.
- arcticbull 9y ago
  I suppose anything is possible, though that may well be much more challenging if intelligence is a function of the physical configuration/arrangement of the neurons in the brain. The interesting question if the structure theory is true, is what kinds of effects that would have on the sense of self, and of consciousness as a whole.
Robotbeat 9y ago
That sounds like an assumption, not a conclusion, though. Also, most of human history (and especially mammalian history) has been relatively food-energy-limited. But we've solved that problem with the agricultural revolution and automation. Does this mean we've removed that barrier?
- saurik 9y ago
  Hence why it is worded as a question?
jabgrabdthrow 9y ago
> Which is to say, nothing material is added to the equation, and thus, nothing useful is actually extracted. Conceptually, the idea is to question whether we're really just burning the candle at both ends, to get more light. We could try adding ATP molecules while decreasing cellular decay, I think that would be great, maybe Karma will Punish us but I bet if we fuck around a bit we can do better. But also I think the biggest challenge is political, arguing against people who feel discomfort by the finite and disappointing abilities of their brain organs, projecting their need for comfort to avoid being left behind

thriftwy 9y ago

I doubt this is true. There are smarter people and there are simpler ones. I guess they're in the same ballpark WRT energy usage. Could you turn the latter into the former? Why not?

Mahn 9y ago
But that's a different question, isn't it? We are talking about "overclocking" the brain, so to speak, not necessarily making one smarter or dumber. The speculation here (if I understand correctly) is that "overclocking" the brain has a cost somewhere, but that doesn't imply that smarter people are running "overclocked" brains per se.
arcticbull 9y ago
I suppose anything is possible, though that may well be much more challenging if intelligence is a function of the physical configuration/arrangement of the neurons in the brain. The interesting question if the structure theory is true, is what kinds of effects that would have on the sense of self, and of consciousness as a whole.

Robotbeat 9y ago

That sounds like an assumption, not a conclusion, though. Also, most of human history (and especially mammalian history) has been relatively food-energy-limited. But we've solved that problem with the agricultural revolution and automation. Does this mean we've removed that barrier?

saurik 9y ago
Hence why it is worded as a question?

jabgrabdthrow 9y ago

> Which is to say, nothing material is added to the equation, and thus, nothing useful is actually extracted. Conceptually, the idea is to question whether we're really just burning the candle at both ends, to get more light. We could try adding ATP molecules while decreasing cellular decay, I think that would be great, maybe Karma will Punish us but I bet if we fuck around a bit we can do better. But also I think the biggest challenge is political, arguing against people who feel discomfort by the finite and disappointing abilities of their brain organs, projecting their need for comfort to avoid being left behind