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The condition you're referring to only occurs on one specific type of shuffler, called a CSM (continuous shuffler machine). These are the kind where the dealer
by downandout 9y ago
The condition you're referring to only occurs on one specific type of shuffler, called a CSM (continuous shuffler machine). These are the kind where the dealer feeds previously discarded cards back into the machine every hand or two, and there is never any pause in the game. CSM's are less common than traditional shuffler machines, where two decks/shoes are used, and one is being shuffled while the other is being played with. Traditional shuffler machines have no bearing on your ability to count cards, as the game is played out exactly as it would be if the dealer were shuffling.
Also, advantage players have found flaws that make certain models of shuffle machines vulnerable to attack. Here's a fascinating example of this from the world's best known advatange player, James Grosjean:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/magazine/how-advantage-players-game-the-casinos.html https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/magazine/how-advantage...
- jedberg 9y agoYou're right, the CSM is terrible and is what I was actually referring to. However, I will still try to avoid the traditional machine shufflers since they still get more random shuffles than a hand shuffle which rarely has more than 3 or 4 riffles.