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What? Let's say that the US somehow did implement UBI. You would almost certainly have to be a citizen (or at least be someone who pays taxes with a valid SSN)
by yladiz 9y ago
What?
Let's say that the US somehow did implement UBI. You would almost certainly have to be a citizen (or at least be someone who pays taxes with a valid SSN) to get the benefits. Just being in the US doesn't mean you'll get money every month. Beyond this, how does getting UBI benefits give you a cut on your taxes? You would most likely get taxed more with UBI, given you have a job.
There haven't been many studies on it, and sure some people would likely opt to not have a job if they get UBI, but don't discount the amount of people that would be brought up out of poverty and could possibly do something more than they could now simply because they have better circumstances.
Even though I think that UBI will certainly probably never be implemented in the US, given the current system of politics, I would argue that it's inherently a good thing for society even if you are maybe, potentially marginally worse off. A UBI would likely be implemented in such a way that you will have money for the essentials like food, but if you wanted that brand new phone, you would need to have a job to make money to afford it. UBI doesn't mean everything is free, it just means that you don't have to worry about feeding yourself.
- niceperson 9y agoit's not about practicality, it's about morality. ANd what UBI does is mandate self-sacrifice. And what's stopping people with UBI from sharing half of it with a non-citizen? nothing.
- mikelyons 9y agoMorality (and the act of moralising) is a very subtle addiction.
- niceperson 9y agolmao picture of stirner
- mikelyons 9y agoCare to say anything specific about Stirner's ideas?
- niceperson 9y agoReality isn't a spook
- yladiz 9y agoYou already have "mandatory self sacrifice" through taxes.
- niceperson 9y agoSo? Just because you've got a cut doesn't mean getting another is fine.