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Well, it is different system here and in Germany. Vocational study or technical high school is limiting your choices of uni and career paths. Post high school

by dejv 9y ago

Well, it is different system here and in Germany. Vocational study or technical high school is limiting your choices of uni and career paths. Post high school you either go work (you already spent few years on the job during school) or uni. There are tons of jobs that are closed to you when you choose wrong path at the age of 14 or 15 and it is really hard to change the tracks. It is good system for manufacturing companies and economy, but not that great for some people.

someSven 9y ago
I'm quite sure this isn't correct. You can always take extra courses and go to university. However, there is no point in everyone doing that.
SkyMarshal 9y ago
What makes it really hard to change tracks? I imagine if there were enough political will, that's a solvable problem.
- dejv 9y ago
  The system is build as a training for just one type of work and nothing more. (if we are not talking about gymnasiums) So changing tracks means starting from zero again. It is doable, but very few people want to start again in class full of 15 years old, second problem is money: there is nothing like student loans. Also society will view as a failure.
- rawfan 9y ago
  It's not true. At least for Germany. Take a friend of mine for example: He went to Hauptschule (Germany has a 3-tier school system where children are split up after primary school, Hauptschule is for the least skilled children). He left Hauptschule a year early with very bad grades to start an apprenticeship with a carpenter. After three years of school and practival training he graduated to journeyman with honors (i.e. all grades: A). This gives you a scholarship for master school or college (if you want). He chose master school and earned the master craftsman degree. He finished that with honors, too and got another scholarship. Now he actually went to university to get a bachelor in something called wood-technology. In many academic traits it's actually beneficial to go for an apprenticeship first. Architects often become carpenters of masons before studying architecture, a friend of mine who's a nurse got her Dr. med. last week. The list could go on for a while.
  - dejv 9y ago
    But thats one track. Say you went carpenter route when you were 15 and now you want to study medicine or electronics or CS. You are going to lack basic background: even with master school it is really going to be tough to learn all the chemistry, mathematics, biology or physics that is required for those majors.

by dejv 9y ago

someSven 9y ago

I'm quite sure this isn't correct. You can always take extra courses and go to university. However, there is no point in everyone doing that.

SkyMarshal 9y ago

What makes it really hard to change tracks? I imagine if there were enough political will, that's a solvable problem.

dejv 9y ago
The system is build as a training for just one type of work and nothing more. (if we are not talking about gymnasiums) So changing tracks means starting from zero again. It is doable, but very few people want to start again in class full of 15 years old, second problem is money: there is nothing like student loans. Also society will view as a failure.
rawfan 9y ago
It's not true. At least for Germany. Take a friend of mine for example: He went to Hauptschule (Germany has a 3-tier school system where children are split up after primary school, Hauptschule is for the least skilled children). He left Hauptschule a year early with very bad grades to start an apprenticeship with a carpenter. After three years of school and practival training he graduated to journeyman with honors (i.e. all grades: A). This gives you a scholarship for master school or college (if you want). He chose master school and earned the master craftsman degree. He finished that with honors, too and got another scholarship. Now he actually went to university to get a bachelor in something called wood-technology. In many academic traits it's actually beneficial to go for an apprenticeship first. Architects often become carpenters of masons before studying architecture, a friend of mine who's a nurse got her Dr. med. last week. The list could go on for a while.
- dejv 9y ago
  But thats one track. Say you went carpenter route when you were 15 and now you want to study medicine or electronics or CS. You are going to lack basic background: even with master school it is really going to be tough to learn all the chemistry, mathematics, biology or physics that is required for those majors.