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Well, for a moment I comfortably believed what I read as a true history of how it actually happened. After reading the article I'm again sure that there is no w
by yread 16y ago
Well, for a moment I comfortably believed what I read as a true history of how it actually happened. After reading the article I'm again sure that there is no way how can I really know what happened in cases where military or intelligence is involved. And that is very important I think
- tptacek 16y agoThere is zero evidence whatsoever that the military or intelligence agencies had anything to do with outing Manning, despite the fact that doing so is precisely their job, and that their failure to do so is the real scandal in this story. Instead, there are a series of insinuations in Greenwald's post that despite the firsthand reporting in Wired and the web of motivations attributed to Lamo and Poulsen, there might also be the shadowy hand of military intelligence involved. Again my point: Greenwald is harming our understanding of what happened here.
- yread 16y agoThere definitely was some involvement! Do you think that FBI after receiving the chats and arranging stuff with Lamo just said "Ah cheers for the info, pal. Now go tell your friends and Wired and whoever you want whatever you want." I think the first thing they would tell him is to shut up about it. Why did he publicized it? There is your involvement!
- niels_olson 16y agoPerhaps, but as a civil liberties lawyer, he's doing his job wel, and from that perspective I commend him. Just as I commend you -- one of the few people on HN I make sure to take notice of.