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> And, Godhra Train was burned by 2000 Muslims surrounding a train and burning people with nothing to escape. > Next time before mentioning Godhra and Muslims

> And, Godhra Train was burned by 2000 Muslims surrounding a train and burning people with nothing to escape. > Next time before mentioning Godhra and Muslims in same sentence don't forget to mention what 2000 Muslims did to unarmed people in train by locking the train compartment. None of these things matter. Lets say that 10 people committed a crime in broad daylight in front of hundreds of people, then they hid in some houses, and goons who have the backing of the govt then used the Adhaar database to single out all the community members of the same community as the culprits, found them and lynched them. Even then, nothing changes the fact that dilution of civil liberties happened by the Adhaar card, as article linked claims. > 95% of the stats are made on the spot, like you made above. That's not a 'stat', it's my confidence level on my ability to judge these things.

realonedev 9y ago
You are unable to back up your claims by verifiable data source and quantifiable data points. Can you get the caste of a person by reading the Aadhar number ? Answer is No. If you or your relatives had not lost bribe money due to the Direct Benefit scheme, then I cannot understand the blatant hate of Aadhar. Otherwise, I hope that neither you nor your immediate family members were accumulating wealth by being corrupt or being the actual middleman themselves.
- splintercell 9y ago
  > Can you get the caste of a person by reading the Aadhar number ? Are you saying that government does not have any information associated with the Aadhar number? You're straw manning really badly. The whole argument, nearly every single person in this thread, making against you is that Aadhar is dystopian. But your argument is "But you can't figure out a person's info by just reading the Aadhar number".
  - narrowrail 9y ago
    As an American (born and raised), this whole discussion is fascinating and is similar to the 'Obamacare' debate here. All of the Indians I've known in the US corroborate your claim about knowing one's religion/ heritage by last name alone. I hope the discussion can remain civil, but there does seem to be an agenda among some participants.
    - realonedev 9y ago
      The Indians you know are wrong about their ability to figure out caste by last name. It's a intutive thing to say, but wrong.
- intended 9y ago
  The answer is yes After the change in 2016, aadhar no longer gives only a confirmation/negation, it also provides demographic information aka full name, and address + a few more features. Surnames are highly distinctive especially when combined with address data, so yes Aadhar now will provide you with enough information to assess caste. Furthermore - since when do mobs and angry people worry about 100% accuracy. In the throes of emotion, close enough is good enough.

realonedev 9y ago

You are unable to back up your claims by verifiable data source and quantifiable data points. Can you get the caste of a person by reading the Aadhar number ? Answer is No. If you or your relatives had not lost bribe money due to the Direct Benefit scheme, then I cannot understand the blatant hate of Aadhar. Otherwise, I hope that neither you nor your immediate family members were accumulating wealth by being corrupt or being the actual middleman themselves.

splintercell 9y ago
> Can you get the caste of a person by reading the Aadhar number ? Are you saying that government does not have any information associated with the Aadhar number? You're straw manning really badly. The whole argument, nearly every single person in this thread, making against you is that Aadhar is dystopian. But your argument is "But you can't figure out a person's info by just reading the Aadhar number".
- narrowrail 9y ago
  As an American (born and raised), this whole discussion is fascinating and is similar to the 'Obamacare' debate here. All of the Indians I've known in the US corroborate your claim about knowing one's religion/ heritage by last name alone. I hope the discussion can remain civil, but there does seem to be an agenda among some participants.
  - realonedev 9y ago
    The Indians you know are wrong about their ability to figure out caste by last name. It's a intutive thing to say, but wrong.
intended 9y ago
The answer is yes After the change in 2016, aadhar no longer gives only a confirmation/negation, it also provides demographic information aka full name, and address + a few more features. Surnames are highly distinctive especially when combined with address data, so yes Aadhar now will provide you with enough information to assess caste. Furthermore - since when do mobs and angry people worry about 100% accuracy. In the throes of emotion, close enough is good enough.