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> I prefer iOS because there is a single vendor for managing the sales and the development of both the hardware snd the software If that's really your only rea

> I prefer iOS because there is a single vendor for managing the sales and the development of both the hardware snd the software If that's really your only reason for preferring iOS, Google has been making phones for over 7 years. There are obviously valid reasons for that preference, but the single one you've mentioned isn't.

yeukhon 9y ago
I am aware of Google phone. But is it Google who's also rolling out the upgrades to users directly? iphone does not care carrier's upgrade schedule.
- delecti 9y ago
  The carriers do in fact have a say in the upgrade schedule. I know that (at least for a little while) they stopped being able to release updates quite as quickly once they released the iPhone for Verizon in the US. And yes, if you buy your phone directly from Google, you'll get your updates directly from Google with no delay (other than their staged rollout process).
- barrkel 9y ago
  Yes, it's Google rolling out upgrades to users directly. (I have never owned an Android phone other than the Nexus series.)
oneshot908 9y ago
My chief problem with both iOS and Android is far less the OS versions and far more the app update treadmill of despair that has eventually effectively bricked every single smartphone and tablet I've owned. For if one opts out of updating those apps, either future versions require an OS update, they stop communicating with underlying cloud services and break, or they require current HW not to make the phone unusable. If this trend continues into IoT, IMO it will be a dystopic fail whale. At some point these gadgets become appliances (with apologies to Cory Doctorow) wherein IMO their behavior should be well-defined and consistent over time. Example: do you really want a Smart TV that has to boot and which by default communicates analytics about you into the cloud? I don't. But maybe I'm just an old fogie who remembers how awesome it was when TVs starting turning on immediately instead of having to warm up the picture tube.

yeukhon 9y ago

I am aware of Google phone. But is it Google who's also rolling out the upgrades to users directly? iphone does not care carrier's upgrade schedule.

delecti 9y ago
The carriers do in fact have a say in the upgrade schedule. I know that (at least for a little while) they stopped being able to release updates quite as quickly once they released the iPhone for Verizon in the US. And yes, if you buy your phone directly from Google, you'll get your updates directly from Google with no delay (other than their staged rollout process).
barrkel 9y ago
Yes, it's Google rolling out upgrades to users directly. (I have never owned an Android phone other than the Nexus series.)

oneshot908 9y ago

My chief problem with both iOS and Android is far less the OS versions and far more the app update treadmill of despair that has eventually effectively bricked every single smartphone and tablet I've owned. For if one opts out of updating those apps, either future versions require an OS update, they stop communicating with underlying cloud services and break, or they require current HW not to make the phone unusable. If this trend continues into IoT, IMO it will be a dystopic fail whale. At some point these gadgets become appliances (with apologies to Cory Doctorow) wherein IMO their behavior should be well-defined and consistent over time. Example: do you really want a Smart TV that has to boot and which by default communicates analytics about you into the cloud? I don't. But maybe I'm just an old fogie who remembers how awesome it was when TVs starting turning on immediately instead of having to warm up the picture tube.