7 ms·

Yes and physical prowess was never dominated by humans anyway. We are surrounded by creatures which can fly and swim and sprint far better than any human ever

Yes and physical prowess was never dominated by humans anyway. We are surrounded by creatures which can fly and swim and sprint far better than any human ever could. But our minds is what separates us from the beasts. We've never been second place in the thought competition.

namarie 9y ago
Aren't we actually better at endurance running than any other animal?
- agildehaus 9y ago
  I think so. It's all about heat regulation: we have far more sweat glands than any other species, even our ape ancestors.
- nightcracker 9y ago
  Land animal, I believe so, yes. But an albatros would cover much more ground much more efficiently than us.
- tambourine_man 9y ago
  Seems sled dogs beat us on this one: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HDG4GSypcIE https://youtube.com/watch?v=HDG4GSypcIE
  - maga 9y ago
    Yet again we have created something to outdo us.
    - hyperbovine 9y ago
      DeepMind could do it better.
- natch 9y ago
  Human plus bicycle is the most efficient. Which may seem like a snide point (and a ripoff of Steve Jobs) but seriously it hints at where things could go with AI.
- nickpsecurity 9y ago
  Our superhumans are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Karnazes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Karnazes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon
bad_user 9y ago
Actually, we are pretty good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon
- catshirt 9y ago
  pretty good at consistently losing to horses in running marathons? can't say i'm surprised.
  - ufmace 9y ago
    Interestingly, it looks like the distance for this contest was shortened from a standard marathon to make it "more competitive". I wonder if anyone's explored the results at different distances? Perhaps the human would have a bigger advantage at longer distances. I'm not sure why they'd shorten the distance for the humans - a marathon is a standard distance that at least hundreds of thousands of people all over the world run just for fun. There even seems to be a pretty big community of ultra-marathoners that compete at distances several times greater than marathons, and over rough terrain too.
Cyphase 9y ago
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2012/06/long_distance_running_and_evolution_why_humans_can_outrun_horses_but_can_t_jump_higher_than_cats_.single.html http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2012/06/long... "There's no denying it—our kind started substituting brains for brawn long ago, and it shows: We can't begin to compete with animals when it comes to the raw ingredients of athletic prowess. Yet being the absurdly self-enthralled species we are, we crowd into arenas and stadiums to marvel at our pathetic physical abilities as if they were something special. But there is one exception to our general paltriness: We're the right honorable kings and queens of the planet when it comes to long-distance running."
- dmoy 9y ago
  RE long distance running: Actually sled dogs way outpace humans at long distance running. Like they can do a marathon a day for a week straight, while pulling a sled. Humans are second place tho I think.
  - Cyphase 9y ago
    Here's a relevant portion of the linked article, particularly the last bit about Huskies: > But what most sets us apart as runners is that we’re really cool—we naked apes are champion sweaters and can dissipate body heat faster than any other large mammal. Our main rivals for the endurance-running crown fall into two groups: migratory ungulates, such as horses and wildebeest, and social carnivores, such as dogs and hyenas. They can easily out-sprint us by galloping. But none can gallop very far without overheating—they largely rely on panting to keep cool, and they can't pant when galloping, for panting involves taking very rapid, shallow breaths that would interfere with respiration when running. Dogs can gallop for only about 10 to 15 minutes before reverting to a trot, and so their distance-running speed tops out at about 3.8 meters per second. Horses' average distance-running speed is 5.8 meters per second—a canter. Wildebeests’ is 5.1 meters per second. > Elite human runners, however, can sustain speeds up to 6.5 meters per second. Even run-of-the-mill joggers typically do between 3.2 and 4.2 meters per second, which means they can outrun dogs at distances greater than two kilometers. > Our "sustainable distance" is also hard to beat. African hunting dogs typically travel an average of 10 kilometers a day. Wolves and hyenas tend to go about 14 and 19 kilometers, respectively. In repeated distance runs, horses can cover about 20 kilometers a day. Vast throngs of human runners, by comparison, routinely run 42.2-kilometer marathons in just a few hours, and each year tens of thousands of people complete ultra-marathons of 100 kilometers and longer. (A few animals can match that under special circumstances. Huskies can trot up to 100 kilometers in Arctic conditions when forced to by people. But in warmer climes—no way.)

namarie 9y ago

Aren't we actually better at endurance running than any other animal?

agildehaus 9y ago
I think so. It's all about heat regulation: we have far more sweat glands than any other species, even our ape ancestors.
nightcracker 9y ago
Land animal, I believe so, yes. But an albatros would cover much more ground much more efficiently than us.
tambourine_man 9y ago
Seems sled dogs beat us on this one: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HDG4GSypcIE https://youtube.com/watch?v=HDG4GSypcIE
- maga 9y ago
  Yet again we have created something to outdo us.
  - hyperbovine 9y ago
    DeepMind could do it better.
natch 9y ago
Human plus bicycle is the most efficient. Which may seem like a snide point (and a ripoff of Steve Jobs) but seriously it hints at where things could go with AI.
nickpsecurity 9y ago
Our superhumans are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Karnazes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Karnazes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon

bad_user 9y ago

Actually, we are pretty good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon

catshirt 9y ago
pretty good at consistently losing to horses in running marathons? can't say i'm surprised.
- ufmace 9y ago
  Interestingly, it looks like the distance for this contest was shortened from a standard marathon to make it "more competitive". I wonder if anyone's explored the results at different distances? Perhaps the human would have a bigger advantage at longer distances. I'm not sure why they'd shorten the distance for the humans - a marathon is a standard distance that at least hundreds of thousands of people all over the world run just for fun. There even seems to be a pretty big community of ultra-marathoners that compete at distances several times greater than marathons, and over rough terrain too.

Cyphase 9y ago

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2012/06/long_distance_running_and_evolution_why_humans_can_outrun_horses_but_can_t_jump_higher_than_cats_.single.html http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2012/06/long... "There's no denying it—our kind started substituting brains for brawn long ago, and it shows: We can't begin to compete with animals when it comes to the raw ingredients of athletic prowess. Yet being the absurdly self-enthralled species we are, we crowd into arenas and stadiums to marvel at our pathetic physical abilities as if they were something special. But there is one exception to our general paltriness: We're the right honorable kings and queens of the planet when it comes to long-distance running."

dmoy 9y ago
RE long distance running: Actually sled dogs way outpace humans at long distance running. Like they can do a marathon a day for a week straight, while pulling a sled. Humans are second place tho I think.
- Cyphase 9y ago
  Here's a relevant portion of the linked article, particularly the last bit about Huskies: > But what most sets us apart as runners is that we’re really cool—we naked apes are champion sweaters and can dissipate body heat faster than any other large mammal. Our main rivals for the endurance-running crown fall into two groups: migratory ungulates, such as horses and wildebeest, and social carnivores, such as dogs and hyenas. They can easily out-sprint us by galloping. But none can gallop very far without overheating—they largely rely on panting to keep cool, and they can't pant when galloping, for panting involves taking very rapid, shallow breaths that would interfere with respiration when running. Dogs can gallop for only about 10 to 15 minutes before reverting to a trot, and so their distance-running speed tops out at about 3.8 meters per second. Horses' average distance-running speed is 5.8 meters per second—a canter. Wildebeests’ is 5.1 meters per second. > Elite human runners, however, can sustain speeds up to 6.5 meters per second. Even run-of-the-mill joggers typically do between 3.2 and 4.2 meters per second, which means they can outrun dogs at distances greater than two kilometers. > Our "sustainable distance" is also hard to beat. African hunting dogs typically travel an average of 10 kilometers a day. Wolves and hyenas tend to go about 14 and 19 kilometers, respectively. In repeated distance runs, horses can cover about 20 kilometers a day. Vast throngs of human runners, by comparison, routinely run 42.2-kilometer marathons in just a few hours, and each year tens of thousands of people complete ultra-marathons of 100 kilometers and longer. (A few animals can match that under special circumstances. Huskies can trot up to 100 kilometers in Arctic conditions when forced to by people. But in warmer climes—no way.)