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I foresee a long drawn out nasty international legal fight about this. In the same way the EU authorities have been very weak dealing with the car companies and

I foresee a long drawn out nasty international legal fight about this. In the same way the EU authorities have been very weak dealing with the car companies and emissions e.g. dieselgate, the US authorities refuse to see the problem with privacy and data. The governments are going to blame each other for stifling competition (companies from their country) etc. I think the practices of online tracking joined up with offline tracking, as Google is now doing is going to be forbidden unless you consent. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/05/23/google-now-knows-when-you-are-at-a-cash-register-and-how-much-you-are-spending/?utm_term=.777026bc2468 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/05/23...

thr0waway1239 9y ago
>> going to be forbidden unless you consent This was exactly my point a while back. That the default option should be to get explicit permission for each piece of data you collect AND infer, even if the inference is being done in situ as the code executes (otherwise it will become another out clause). Of course, the geeks who get all delirious by seeing a mountain of data to analyze would not want that kind of friction in the process. I wonder what would happen if someone would spend the time to completely dissect and reverse engineer exactly how lookalike profiles are being generated. My guess is that it will expose data collection practices which will confirm our worst fears.
bigbugbag 9y ago
The safe harbor agreement allowing EU citizens' data to be sent to the US was invalidated by the European Court of Justice and hastily replaced by the EU-US privacy shield which is effective since february 2017 and is already under attack and possibly on the way out while trump took a strong stance to not give any privacy to non-US citizens. Then there is the secret negotiation of TAFTA where the US wants to siphon data without providing privacy and Germany refuses to let TAFTA go on until there are adequate privacy measures. So yeah, this battle has been an ongoing one for years now.
- bjelkeman-again 9y ago
  Indeed. I think it will get worse though.

thr0waway1239 9y ago

>> going to be forbidden unless you consent This was exactly my point a while back. That the default option should be to get explicit permission for each piece of data you collect AND infer, even if the inference is being done in situ as the code executes (otherwise it will become another out clause). Of course, the geeks who get all delirious by seeing a mountain of data to analyze would not want that kind of friction in the process. I wonder what would happen if someone would spend the time to completely dissect and reverse engineer exactly how lookalike profiles are being generated. My guess is that it will expose data collection practices which will confirm our worst fears.

bigbugbag 9y ago

The safe harbor agreement allowing EU citizens' data to be sent to the US was invalidated by the European Court of Justice and hastily replaced by the EU-US privacy shield which is effective since february 2017 and is already under attack and possibly on the way out while trump took a strong stance to not give any privacy to non-US citizens. Then there is the secret negotiation of TAFTA where the US wants to siphon data without providing privacy and Germany refuses to let TAFTA go on until there are adequate privacy measures. So yeah, this battle has been an ongoing one for years now.

bjelkeman-again 9y ago
Indeed. I think it will get worse though.