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Here is a picture of Palm Garnet OS which apparently Apple "faithfully aped": http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/palm-garnet-vm-1.jpg http://www.palminfocente

by wilg 9y ago

Here is a picture of Palm Garnet OS which apparently Apple "faithfully aped": http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/palm-garnet-vm-1.jpg http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/palm-garnet-vm-1.jpg Do you think that both interfaces are the same simply because they are "touch controlled" and "icon based"? Also, saying there were other worse phones before the iPhone came out does not refute the point that the reason the space "finally took off" was because of Apple.

wilg 9y ago
I feel its my duty to report that after looking at that image of Palm Garnet OS it shows an app called "DiddleBug", which is apparently a note taking app. Its website still exists (http://diddlebug.sourceforge.net/ http://diddlebug.sourceforge.net/) and indicates it contains "IntelliBooger™ extensions". I am certainly glad Steve Jobs applied his sinister marketing magic to whatever this is so that no one has to be inserting IntelliBoogers into their DiddleBugs on their PalmPilots just to take a note.
- Roritharr 9y ago
  Yes, things like these remind me to take our Product and Marketing guys more seriously, because, left alone in a cellar, I too probably would call things DiddleBugs and IntelliBoogers.
- boomlinde 9y ago
  You can of course take notes out of the box with a more informatively named program. I'm sure there are apps with weird names in the iPhone app store as well.
- s_kilk 9y ago
  What a weirdly scatological naming scheme
abytecod 9y ago
That's not a very representative screenshot of PalmOS since it's a Palm emulator running on Nokia's Maemo. Here's a more representitive shot: http://e.cdn-hardware.com.br/static/books/smartphones/cap5-9_html_m392d3e86.png http://e.cdn-hardware.com.br/static/books/smartphones/cap5-9...
- wtallis 9y ago
  That's still plenty to spot major differences between the stylus-based PalmOS paradigm and modern touch-based smartphone interaction. There's a drop down menu on that PalmOS home screen, and the app launcher has to be scrolled by interacting with the scrollbar on the edge of the screen (or using the hardware scroll buttons). Looking at a screenshot of one of the applications would show even bigger differences. Really, the similarities don't go much further than a tile-based launcher and a status bar at the top of the screen. The PalmOS UI had more in common with the Newton UI than iOS.
- djsumdog 9y ago
  That was the PalmOS I remember. It was single threaded with no memory protection either, so you could write into other programs memory space and easily crash your device. :) I still loved PalmOS. I had two Visors, a Treo, a Centro and even a Palm Pre with WebOS. HP hasn't done anything with all their Palm IP for a while .. sad to see it totally gone now.
- wilg 9y ago
  That's the PalmOS I remember too, but I wasn't sure if "Garnet" was something different or not.

by wilg 9y ago

wilg 9y ago

I feel its my duty to report that after looking at that image of Palm Garnet OS it shows an app called "DiddleBug", which is apparently a note taking app. Its website still exists (http://diddlebug.sourceforge.net/ http://diddlebug.sourceforge.net/) and indicates it contains "IntelliBooger™ extensions". I am certainly glad Steve Jobs applied his sinister marketing magic to whatever this is so that no one has to be inserting IntelliBoogers into their DiddleBugs on their PalmPilots just to take a note.

Roritharr 9y ago
Yes, things like these remind me to take our Product and Marketing guys more seriously, because, left alone in a cellar, I too probably would call things DiddleBugs and IntelliBoogers.
boomlinde 9y ago
You can of course take notes out of the box with a more informatively named program. I'm sure there are apps with weird names in the iPhone app store as well.
s_kilk 9y ago
What a weirdly scatological naming scheme

abytecod 9y ago

That's not a very representative screenshot of PalmOS since it's a Palm emulator running on Nokia's Maemo. Here's a more representitive shot: http://e.cdn-hardware.com.br/static/books/smartphones/cap5-9_html_m392d3e86.png http://e.cdn-hardware.com.br/static/books/smartphones/cap5-9...

wtallis 9y ago
That's still plenty to spot major differences between the stylus-based PalmOS paradigm and modern touch-based smartphone interaction. There's a drop down menu on that PalmOS home screen, and the app launcher has to be scrolled by interacting with the scrollbar on the edge of the screen (or using the hardware scroll buttons). Looking at a screenshot of one of the applications would show even bigger differences. Really, the similarities don't go much further than a tile-based launcher and a status bar at the top of the screen. The PalmOS UI had more in common with the Newton UI than iOS.
djsumdog 9y ago
That was the PalmOS I remember. It was single threaded with no memory protection either, so you could write into other programs memory space and easily crash your device. :) I still loved PalmOS. I had two Visors, a Treo, a Centro and even a Palm Pre with WebOS. HP hasn't done anything with all their Palm IP for a while .. sad to see it totally gone now.
wilg 9y ago
That's the PalmOS I remember too, but I wasn't sure if "Garnet" was something different or not.