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Using a "device" to help you gamble at a casino is usually illegal, yes. From the Wired article: the operatives use their phones to record about two dozen spin
by acheron 9y ago
Using a "device" to help you gamble at a casino is usually illegal, yes. From the Wired article:
the operatives use their phones to record about two dozen spins on a game they aim to cheat. They upload that footage to a technical staff in St. Petersburg, who analyze the video and calculate the machine’s pattern based on what they know about the model’s pseudorandom number generator. Finally, the St. Petersburg team transmits a list of timing markers to a custom app on the operative’s phone; those markers cause the handset to vibrate roughly 0.25 seconds before the operative should press the spin button.
Wired says they were arrested under a federal fraud charge. I don't know how that part works, but it's definitely illegal under state laws, e.g. Nevada: It is unlawful for any person to use, possess with the intent to use or assist another person in using or possessing with the intent to use any computerized, electronic, electrical or mechanical device, or any software or hardware, or any combination thereof, which is designed, constructed, altered or programmed to obtain an advantage at playing any game in a licensed gaming establishment... [1]
Applies to anything at the casino -- it's not illegal to count cards at blackjack in your head, but you can't use your phone to do it.
[1] https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-465.html#NRS465Sec075 https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-465.html#NRS465Sec075
- ouid 9y agoto obtain an advantage? So any device the casinos use is illegal.
- jbigelow76 9y agoThe casino is covering a bet that is mathematically advantageous already, so no device is needed on their part.
- ouid 9y agoNo they aren't. Plenty of casino technology exists to prevent gamblers from having an advantage with perfect, unassisted play. Dealers use automatic shufflers, for instance.
- pyre 9y agoThe automatic shufflers are probably there to prevent dealers from being "on the take" to one of the players at the table.
- valuearb 9y agoContinuous shufflers are used in low stakes blackjack to basically make card counting impossible.
- jbigelow76 9y agoThere is a difference between "perfect" blackjack play, and card counting. If a casino is willing to put themselves in a situation where a counter can succeed they deserve to lose every dollar they have, but using a continuous shuffle machine doesn't confer a greater mathematical advantage in a single hand than the casino would already have.
- ouid 9y agoIf I was willing to play the slot machines without algorithmic assistance, I deserve to lose.
- jbigelow76 9y agoNo arguments there