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Bollocks. Some slip through, but vastly more attacks are stopped unless you think all of the people in prison for terrorism offences are a fiction.
by micv 9y ago
Bollocks. Some slip through, but vastly more attacks are stopped unless you think all of the people in prison for terrorism offences are a fiction.
- CrystalLangUser 9y agoA few people in jail < total government surveillance and flippant disregard towards human privacy. I'm sure oh so many attacks are stopped, but really the government uses that as an excuse to spy and track data on anything and everything. Keeping people in fear means they can do anything.
- jacquesm 9y agoEffectiveness of surveillance arguments get old really quick and have been hashed to death. In short: a means to an end argument is a fallacy, specifically an appeal to consequences. If you're sensitive to fearmongering then please do hang out on HN more often, maybe we'll be able to convince you of the irrationality of that position. 'vastly' indicates huge numbers, 'all of the people' indicates huge numbers as well. In reality those numbers are (1) really small and (2) do not account for those attacks where governments helped a little bit to get the ball rolling (or in fact did almost everything). Keep in mind that terrorists, just like hackers only have to succeed once in a while, that in spite of using plain comms a substantial amount of these attacks succeed and that in an open society there is no effective way of stopping terrorists to begin with. So if you really want to get to the point where each and every terrorist attack is stopped you are arguing for a police state because that would stop you from getting into your car and driving wherever you want to go as well. Otherwise what is there to stop you from driving into a bunch of pedestrians and claiming terrorism?