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In this video of the attack: https://twitter.com/MahirZeynalov/status/865301089867923456 https://twitter.com/MahirZeynalov/status/865301089867923456 a bodyguar
by werewolf359 9y ago
In this video of the attack: https://twitter.com/MahirZeynalov/status/865301089867923456 https://twitter.com/MahirZeynalov/status/865301089867923456
a bodyguard is seen talking to someone in the back of a car. That bodyguard nods to another bodyguard, who then walks towards the protest. The attack begins the second he arrives at the line.
Later, the person in the back of the car gets out. It's Erdogan.
This video didn't get as much press as it should have, I suppose since you can't say it's "proof" he ordered the attack. But come on.
- dmix 9y agoWould Ergodan's goons (all 10 of them) go into this confrontation without his (or his lead security guards) consent? I know from various stories/documentaries that US Secret Service presidential protection details are extremely tightly controlled. There would never be spontaneous involvement in the protest unless they were immediately threatened. Which they clearly aren't in this video.
- ehsankia 9y agoI was honestly surprised that NYT did such a beautiful in depth analysis of videos and didn't have this video in there. How can you do an in depth research on that incident and not have this vital video? I wonder if with modern machine learning backed algorithms, we can do a semi-decent job at reading some of the lips in that video.
- JBReefer 9y agoOr you know, just find a deaf Turk...
- mozumder 9y ago? That video is in the article, specifically talking about the possibility of Erdogan ordering the attack.
- nkurz 9y agoI agree, the analysis is great, but linking to an unedited source video would help remove doubt that things might be shown out of context. If you haven't found one yet, here's one: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/recep-tayyip-erdogan-bodyguard-video-beat-up-kurdish-protesters-donald-trump-washington-dc-a7740846.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/recep-ta... If the perpetrators of the violence shown in the video are not charged with criminal acts, I think this means we are no longer operating under rule of law.
- ngcazz 9y agoWhat? It's near the bottom.
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- ehsankia 9y agoI was either having a really slow day or it was added later.
- riffic 9y ago> was honestly surprised that NYT did such a beautiful in depth analysis of videos and didn't have this video in there. How can you do an in depth research on that incident and not have this vital video Licensing perhaps?
- ehsankia 9y agoI was honestly surprised that NYT did such a beautiful in depth analysis of videos and didn't have this video in there. How can you do an in depth research on that incident and not have this vital video? I wonder if with modern machine learning backed algorithms, we can do a semi-decent job at reading some of the lips in that video.