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According to some information that the AlphaGo team released earlier in the week, the current version of AlphaGo can give a three-stone handicap to the version

According to some information that the AlphaGo team released earlier in the week, the current version of AlphaGo can give a three-stone handicap to the version that played Lee Sedol: http://www.usgo.org/news/2017/05/new-version-of-alphago-self-trained-and-much-more-efficient/ http://www.usgo.org/news/2017/05/new-version-of-alphago-self.... I don't know if that qualifies as "exponential", but that's a massive difference in skill at the game. If it's accurate at all, I think there's basically zero chance that a human will ever beat AlphaGo again.

cjbprime 9y ago
Wow, hadn't seen that, that's terrifying.
- Deimorz 9y ago
  Terrifying in some ways, but I think it's also inspiring. It's pretty amazing to have some evidence that there's still that much "room" left at the top of the game for players to continue improving.
BoiledCabbage 9y ago
And the more interesting note - it gained a three stone handicap of skill with 1 year of practice. If they were to continue at it should we expect a 3 stone improvement in skill every year? Maybe they made some major leaps this time and future changes aren't as large. So a 3 stone improvement every two years. It doesn't take long until the Go being played is fundamentally a different game than what we play. Even if it's on the same board with same rules. What does it look like when Go still isn't solved, but AI is 20 stones better than the best humans? At that point we can no longer even tangibly measure its brilliance. Only ask it to compare its brilliance to other brilliant AIs. What will that even look like through out eyes? What will like look like when an AI is 20 stones better than us at war games? I assume next step for AlphaGo is a real time strategy game like Starcraft, or some other game with incomplete information. 3-5 years from now when mastered it'll be hard to persuade people not to use it in the real world.

cjbprime 9y ago

Wow, hadn't seen that, that's terrifying.

Deimorz 9y ago
Terrifying in some ways, but I think it's also inspiring. It's pretty amazing to have some evidence that there's still that much "room" left at the top of the game for players to continue improving.

BoiledCabbage 9y ago

And the more interesting note - it gained a three stone handicap of skill with 1 year of practice. If they were to continue at it should we expect a 3 stone improvement in skill every year? Maybe they made some major leaps this time and future changes aren't as large. So a 3 stone improvement every two years. It doesn't take long until the Go being played is fundamentally a different game than what we play. Even if it's on the same board with same rules. What does it look like when Go still isn't solved, but AI is 20 stones better than the best humans? At that point we can no longer even tangibly measure its brilliance. Only ask it to compare its brilliance to other brilliant AIs. What will that even look like through out eyes? What will like look like when an AI is 20 stones better than us at war games? I assume next step for AlphaGo is a real time strategy game like Starcraft, or some other game with incomplete information. 3-5 years from now when mastered it'll be hard to persuade people not to use it in the real world.