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I'm in the same market segment as you (i do triathlons). This bike is not meant for the athlete /performance cyclist. It looks like it's trying to target the pe

I'm in the same market segment as you (i do triathlons). This bike is not meant for the athlete /performance cyclist. It looks like it's trying to target the person who only riders a bike to commute, or perhaps go for a leisurely stroll down a beach boulevard. Which IMO is a fine choice, if they really do know that this segment even wants the product they're making, or if this segment is big enough.

throwaway51949 9y ago
I'm in a different market segment (as far as you can get from athlete/performance cyclist), but also think they're misjudging the market. I bike almost every day for commuting, grocery shopping, and visiting friends. Also occasionally longer overnight trips for fun. I can't understand why anyone needs the features of this bike, and even if they did, how does this $1000+ bike provide those features better than adding a few accessories to any bike of your choice? I found that in real life, I noticed no difference with most of the features that command a premium. When commuting, I'm carrying a laptop, charger, and usually lunch. When riding for fun, I'm usually carrying plenty of water, food, and maybe a tent and sleeping bag. So why would I pay hundreds of dollars to save pounds on my bike with a carbon frame? I do spend plenty on accessories, but they're in the opposite direction than what this bike offers. I bought as nice of a saddle as I could find, with no thought towards price. Same with comfortable hand grips. And a really expensive pannier that converts into a backpack - which is probably my best purchase. Following that high publicity jeep hack, and I'm sure plenty of other car hacks that have followed, I personally consider it a feature that my bike is purely mechanical. This bike falls somewhere between "social network for dogs" and "smart refrigerator with livestream of your egg carton" in terms of why would I want this? For half the price of this bike I got a 1500W mid-drive ebike conversion kit that I added to a $150 BMX bike which is ridiculously fun, with a programming cable allows for more than enough tinkering for my tastes. It's in a completely different class than a human powered bicycle for sure, but IMO many casual bicyclists would be well served owning a cheap e-bike and a cheap bicycle.
- hkmurakami 9y ago
  agreed that I'm not really sure which segment this hits. I have a $300 sturdy fixed gear for casual local trips as well as a $800 Cannondale Touring bike for the tent/sleeping bag type of multi-day ride. I think e-bikes are a great choice for commuting for most people as well.

throwaway51949 9y ago

I'm in a different market segment (as far as you can get from athlete/performance cyclist), but also think they're misjudging the market. I bike almost every day for commuting, grocery shopping, and visiting friends. Also occasionally longer overnight trips for fun. I can't understand why anyone needs the features of this bike, and even if they did, how does this $1000+ bike provide those features better than adding a few accessories to any bike of your choice? I found that in real life, I noticed no difference with most of the features that command a premium. When commuting, I'm carrying a laptop, charger, and usually lunch. When riding for fun, I'm usually carrying plenty of water, food, and maybe a tent and sleeping bag. So why would I pay hundreds of dollars to save pounds on my bike with a carbon frame? I do spend plenty on accessories, but they're in the opposite direction than what this bike offers. I bought as nice of a saddle as I could find, with no thought towards price. Same with comfortable hand grips. And a really expensive pannier that converts into a backpack - which is probably my best purchase. Following that high publicity jeep hack, and I'm sure plenty of other car hacks that have followed, I personally consider it a feature that my bike is purely mechanical. This bike falls somewhere between "social network for dogs" and "smart refrigerator with livestream of your egg carton" in terms of why would I want this? For half the price of this bike I got a 1500W mid-drive ebike conversion kit that I added to a $150 BMX bike which is ridiculously fun, with a programming cable allows for more than enough tinkering for my tastes. It's in a completely different class than a human powered bicycle for sure, but IMO many casual bicyclists would be well served owning a cheap e-bike and a cheap bicycle.

hkmurakami 9y ago
agreed that I'm not really sure which segment this hits. I have a $300 sturdy fixed gear for casual local trips as well as a $800 Cannondale Touring bike for the tent/sleeping bag type of multi-day ride. I think e-bikes are a great choice for commuting for most people as well.