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Wow plus the tweet itself has a tone of religious extremism with an implied consent from god as a justification for an atrocity. I'm not even sure I'm against

Wow plus the tweet itself has a tone of religious extremism with an implied consent from god as a justification for an atrocity. I'm not even sure I'm against the death penalty but doing it in the manner of the Taliban is sick.

CoachRufus87 16y ago
i wouldn't place this in the same realm as the Taliban (since they kill anyone)
tzs 16y ago
Where was there a tone of religious extremism?
astine 16y ago
I didn't get the impression that Governor Shurtleff gave the go ahead out of religious conviction at all. The only religious element was a contract between the assumed mercy of God and the convict's apparent lack thereof.
- mattmillr 16y ago
  Agreed. Since "May God have mercy on his soul" is pretty much boilerplate language for executions, we should look at the difference in what Shurtleff says. When he writes, "May God grant him the mercy he denied his victims," the emphasis is on Garner's crime. The "May God grant him the mercy..." part is more likely a cultural artifact than religious extremism.
  - sliverstorm 16y ago
    Same as how our money has 'In God We Trust' written on it. If you're to get up in arms about simple phrases like that, better start objecting to US currency too.
    - hugh3 16y ago
      I do object to US currency for having that phrase, since that's an endorsement of religion by the Government itself. I don't object to the governor's comments, which were made by the Governor as an individual.
      - sliverstorm 16y ago
        It never really sounded like religious endorsement to me. When the President takes the Oath of Office and says "So help me God", I never took that as religious. If he was to utter "God help us" when faced with a particularly grave and insurmountable situation, I wouldn't be thinking 'gee he is religious isn't he'.
nategraves 16y ago
"but doing it in the manner of the Taliban is sick" I'm not sure if you were referring to the method of execution used, but Mr. Gardner was the one who requested that his execution be by firing squad. Subsequently, that method of execution has been outlawed.

CoachRufus87 16y ago

i wouldn't place this in the same realm as the Taliban (since they kill anyone)

tzs 16y ago

Where was there a tone of religious extremism?

astine 16y ago

I didn't get the impression that Governor Shurtleff gave the go ahead out of religious conviction at all. The only religious element was a contract between the assumed mercy of God and the convict's apparent lack thereof.

mattmillr 16y ago
Agreed. Since "May God have mercy on his soul" is pretty much boilerplate language for executions, we should look at the difference in what Shurtleff says. When he writes, "May God grant him the mercy he denied his victims," the emphasis is on Garner's crime. The "May God grant him the mercy..." part is more likely a cultural artifact than religious extremism.
- sliverstorm 16y ago
  Same as how our money has 'In God We Trust' written on it. If you're to get up in arms about simple phrases like that, better start objecting to US currency too.
  - hugh3 16y ago
    I do object to US currency for having that phrase, since that's an endorsement of religion by the Government itself. I don't object to the governor's comments, which were made by the Governor as an individual.
    - sliverstorm 16y ago
      It never really sounded like religious endorsement to me. When the President takes the Oath of Office and says "So help me God", I never took that as religious. If he was to utter "God help us" when faced with a particularly grave and insurmountable situation, I wouldn't be thinking 'gee he is religious isn't he'.

nategraves 16y ago

"but doing it in the manner of the Taliban is sick" I'm not sure if you were referring to the method of execution used, but Mr. Gardner was the one who requested that his execution be by firing squad. Subsequently, that method of execution has been outlawed.