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I mean, I think the comment was pretty clear, and that sounds like exactly what they said.

by parent5446 9y ago

blubb2k 9y ago
What did "Debian" say exactly? Can you link it? Or are you just stating what you imagine "they" might have said? :)
- parent5446 9y ago
  I'm just saying I think that's what the parent comment is saying. As for whether Debian actually said that...well that's anybody's guess.
- AdieuToLogic 9y ago
  This[0] PCWorld article quotes two Debian list email posts which may clarify what "Debian" said. From one of the email[1]: So, this vote effectively gives systemd the win And the other[2] shows the result of Debian voting on the topic. 0 - http://www.pcworld.com/article/2854717/meet-devuan-the-debian-fork-born-from-a-bitter-systemd-revolt.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/2854717/meet-devuan-the-debia... 1 - https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html 2 - https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initcoupling/results.txt https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initcoupling/results.t...
  - blubb2k 9y ago
    So, to quote the subject of [1]: "call for votes on default Linux init system for jessie" Note that it says "default", not "only". Where does that support the claim that Debian would oppose people working on sysvinit support?
    - AdieuToLogic 9y ago
      Where does that support the claim that Debian would oppose people working on sysvinit support? In the body of the other[2] email where 'Option 2 "Support for other init systems is recommended, but not mandatory"' was selected by the Debian community. Once this path was chosen, while it theoretically isn't opposition, in practice it was only a matter of time before non-systemd init systems would become increasingly difficult to use in a systemd-leaning distribution (sysvinit or otherwise). As Manfred Eigen said: In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. (source: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/manfredeig211444.html https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/manfredeig211444...)

I mean, I think the comment was pretty clear, and that sounds like exactly what they said.

blubb2k 9y ago

What did "Debian" say exactly? Can you link it? Or are you just stating what you imagine "they" might have said? :)

parent5446 9y ago
I'm just saying I think that's what the parent comment is saying. As for whether Debian actually said that...well that's anybody's guess.
AdieuToLogic 9y ago
This[0] PCWorld article quotes two Debian list email posts which may clarify what "Debian" said. From one of the email[1]: So, this vote effectively gives systemd the win And the other[2] shows the result of Debian voting on the topic. 0 - http://www.pcworld.com/article/2854717/meet-devuan-the-debian-fork-born-from-a-bitter-systemd-revolt.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/2854717/meet-devuan-the-debia... 1 - https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00338.html 2 - https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initcoupling/results.txt https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initcoupling/results.t...
- blubb2k 9y ago
  So, to quote the subject of [1]: "call for votes on default Linux init system for jessie" Note that it says "default", not "only". Where does that support the claim that Debian would oppose people working on sysvinit support?
  - AdieuToLogic 9y ago
    Where does that support the claim that Debian would oppose people working on sysvinit support? In the body of the other[2] email where 'Option 2 "Support for other init systems is recommended, but not mandatory"' was selected by the Debian community. Once this path was chosen, while it theoretically isn't opposition, in practice it was only a matter of time before non-systemd init systems would become increasingly difficult to use in a systemd-leaning distribution (sysvinit or otherwise). As Manfred Eigen said: In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. (source: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/manfredeig211444.html https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/manfredeig211444...)