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(source: I've twice left my own companies- both companies continued to grow and prosper after I left). Personally, I'd suck it up and get the sale done, workin

(source: I've twice left my own companies- both companies continued to grow and prosper after I left). Personally, I'd suck it up and get the sale done, working hard to make the price as front-loaded as possible. Depending on the buyers appetite for you to keep working there you could: A) Suggest that you're excited to stay with the business, but if they feel there'd be too many chefs in the kitchen and that you should phase out, you'd like to know about that now... i.e. open the door for them to express how critical you are to the deal. B) If they DO really want you, push hard for a front-loaded deal (i.e. initial payout versus earn out) and then give notice 6 months after the deal closes. You'll leave some (maybe lots) of $ on the table, but who cares. Selling a company isn't indentured servitude. Someone else owning the company might relieve some stress. If it doesn't, punt. Broadly-- I'm a believer that happiness is generally internal. If you can't find a way to be happy with this job, I suspect you'll have a hard time with a different one. Starting ASAP, I'd make some changes to see if it makes a difference. Get therapy. Try anti-depressants. Shut off your phone at 6pm and don't open your computer. The sky won't fall. Exercise. Meditate. Try psychedelic mushrooms (only half kidding-- there are some studies that one dose positively impacts depression and anxiety). Eat better. Go into work late AM twice a week so you can take a long walk with your wife. Schedule vacations. Go into the woods a lot (exposure to green space helps depression too). I just read that doing tai chi helps with depression. Schedule weekly lunches with friends.

repomies691 9y ago
"Try psychedelic mushrooms (only half kidding-- there are some studies that one dose positively impacts depression and anxiety)" As a founder, I generally agree. I have also done mushrooms a lot, I don't know if it is very wise but I enjoy it a lot. I also excercise daily and try to follow other tips you gave, though I'm not into meditation, medication or tai chi. I'm quite happy, but I can't really agree that the situation will fix itself with only these tips. Sometimes there are problems at work that need fixing, and the situation only gets better if you fix them. Often fixing these problems requires lots of dedicated work and leaving your comfort zone. But once they are fixed, you are a little bit happier. For example: - Too much responsibilities -> define new roles and delegate responsibilities - Problematic employees -> try to work out the problem with 1-to-1 discussions, or as a last resort, fire them (or talk them to leave). - Difficult to retain employees -> find out and research how to make employees more happy at their work. Try to research which perks are cheap and improve employee happiness. Give free candy. etc.
- trost 9y ago
  If you'd like the stress relieving effect of mushrooms without the guilt of illegal drugs and all that comes with it, try surfing. Apparently, there was a study with PTSD soldiers - one group took, I think it was some kind of amphetamine, for a couple of days and the others went surfing for a couple of weeks with roughly the same positive effect on their PTSD. If you want to know more, I read it in "Stealing Fire" by Steven Kotler and Jamie Wheal.
sebleon 9y ago
> I'm a believer that happiness is generally internal. If you can't find a way to be happy with this job, I suspect you'll have a hard time with a different one. This. Your job is unlikely to be the root source of your depression. Meditation and introspective thinking will likely tell you what's wrong.
WA 9y ago
> Try psychedelic mushrooms Don't do this. Psilocybin has the tendency to "turn out what's inside you" and might make your feelings much worse. People do get bad trips and the consequence can be panic attacks and severe anxiety for months after the trip. It's incredibly dangerous advice to tell someone "take drugs, despite your psychological problems"
- stupidhn 9y ago
  >It's incredibly dangerous advice to tell someone "take drugs, despite your psychological problems" It's far more dangerous to tell people with psychological issues to avoid "drugs".
  - dannytatom 9y ago
    uh, how?
    - pure_ambition 9y ago
      I think they mean legal, prescription drugs. Self-medicating or attempting to resolve mental health issues with psychedelic drugs can be very dangerous and make things much worse. I strongly advise individuals to not trust the advice of random strangers on the internet in this regard.
bhargav 9y ago
Please do not advise people who are clearly depressed to take mushrooms. Always remember that whats an elixir for may be poison for others. Yes, mushrooms do help anxieties BUT it is also known that if you are not in a good mental state, you can have bad trip and a bad trip... is not going to be relieving any anxiety, it will make it worse. That said, maybe Microdosing is okay. I agree with all of your other points but I think it is important to point out that mushroooms will grab you by your genitals and take you for a spin. Not everyone can handle this. I am speaking anecdotally. These things have been mentioned way to often now. I get that its a new thing, and given that the stigma is no longer there - at least in our community - it is also important to know the 'cons' along with the 'pros'.
- gardnr 9y ago
  There are studies that show a sub-recreational dose is beneficial for depression and for chronic headaches. I haven't met a person yet that suffers from chronic headaches that is adverse to trying a low dosage.
  - jordan801 9y ago
    That said, it's always best to do it with someone who has experience, remains sober, and can guide you in a positive manner. It can be easy to become caught in a negative place, although, maybe not at a small dosage, still ill-advised, in my opinion.
    - gardnr 9y ago
      Definitely not bad advice. Especially if it's your first time trying to dose correctly. It could be easy to get it wrong and it would always be better to have a buddy; like these folks from Netherlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz9yC6WkWA0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz9yC6WkWA0
- lstyls 9y ago
  Anecdotally, bad trips do not cause bad feelings after a trip. The overall feeling of improved outlook can result even after a truly harrowing experience. That said, I agree that downing a bunch of psychotropics is probably not going to some OP's problems.
qguv 9y ago
At the risk of sounding obvious: you've identified that your job is the source of the stress and unhappiness. That's certainly not an irrelevant factor, as my parent and sibling comments claim. Make the sale, maybe move to a cheaper apartment, use your newfoud buckets of money to work in your community garden for a month. See how you feel then.
phkahler 9y ago
>> working hard to make the price as front-loaded as possible This. You say the company is profitable, growing and debt-free. The sale should look more like a purchase and less like financing given the condition of the company. If you're that critical to the function of the company, then a priority should be to reduce that dependence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_planning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_planning It's a thing.

repomies691 9y ago

"Try psychedelic mushrooms (only half kidding-- there are some studies that one dose positively impacts depression and anxiety)" As a founder, I generally agree. I have also done mushrooms a lot, I don't know if it is very wise but I enjoy it a lot. I also excercise daily and try to follow other tips you gave, though I'm not into meditation, medication or tai chi. I'm quite happy, but I can't really agree that the situation will fix itself with only these tips. Sometimes there are problems at work that need fixing, and the situation only gets better if you fix them. Often fixing these problems requires lots of dedicated work and leaving your comfort zone. But once they are fixed, you are a little bit happier. For example: - Too much responsibilities -> define new roles and delegate responsibilities - Problematic employees -> try to work out the problem with 1-to-1 discussions, or as a last resort, fire them (or talk them to leave). - Difficult to retain employees -> find out and research how to make employees more happy at their work. Try to research which perks are cheap and improve employee happiness. Give free candy. etc.

trost 9y ago
If you'd like the stress relieving effect of mushrooms without the guilt of illegal drugs and all that comes with it, try surfing. Apparently, there was a study with PTSD soldiers - one group took, I think it was some kind of amphetamine, for a couple of days and the others went surfing for a couple of weeks with roughly the same positive effect on their PTSD. If you want to know more, I read it in "Stealing Fire" by Steven Kotler and Jamie Wheal.

sebleon 9y ago

> I'm a believer that happiness is generally internal. If you can't find a way to be happy with this job, I suspect you'll have a hard time with a different one. This. Your job is unlikely to be the root source of your depression. Meditation and introspective thinking will likely tell you what's wrong.

WA 9y ago

> Try psychedelic mushrooms Don't do this. Psilocybin has the tendency to "turn out what's inside you" and might make your feelings much worse. People do get bad trips and the consequence can be panic attacks and severe anxiety for months after the trip. It's incredibly dangerous advice to tell someone "take drugs, despite your psychological problems"

stupidhn 9y ago
>It's incredibly dangerous advice to tell someone "take drugs, despite your psychological problems" It's far more dangerous to tell people with psychological issues to avoid "drugs".
- dannytatom 9y ago
  uh, how?
  - pure_ambition 9y ago
    I think they mean legal, prescription drugs. Self-medicating or attempting to resolve mental health issues with psychedelic drugs can be very dangerous and make things much worse. I strongly advise individuals to not trust the advice of random strangers on the internet in this regard.

bhargav 9y ago

Please do not advise people who are clearly depressed to take mushrooms. Always remember that whats an elixir for may be poison for others. Yes, mushrooms do help anxieties BUT it is also known that if you are not in a good mental state, you can have bad trip and a bad trip... is not going to be relieving any anxiety, it will make it worse. That said, maybe Microdosing is okay. I agree with all of your other points but I think it is important to point out that mushroooms will grab you by your genitals and take you for a spin. Not everyone can handle this. I am speaking anecdotally. These things have been mentioned way to often now. I get that its a new thing, and given that the stigma is no longer there - at least in our community - it is also important to know the 'cons' along with the 'pros'.

gardnr 9y ago
There are studies that show a sub-recreational dose is beneficial for depression and for chronic headaches. I haven't met a person yet that suffers from chronic headaches that is adverse to trying a low dosage.
- jordan801 9y ago
  That said, it's always best to do it with someone who has experience, remains sober, and can guide you in a positive manner. It can be easy to become caught in a negative place, although, maybe not at a small dosage, still ill-advised, in my opinion.
  - gardnr 9y ago
    Definitely not bad advice. Especially if it's your first time trying to dose correctly. It could be easy to get it wrong and it would always be better to have a buddy; like these folks from Netherlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz9yC6WkWA0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz9yC6WkWA0
lstyls 9y ago
Anecdotally, bad trips do not cause bad feelings after a trip. The overall feeling of improved outlook can result even after a truly harrowing experience. That said, I agree that downing a bunch of psychotropics is probably not going to some OP's problems.

qguv 9y ago

At the risk of sounding obvious: you've identified that your job is the source of the stress and unhappiness. That's certainly not an irrelevant factor, as my parent and sibling comments claim. Make the sale, maybe move to a cheaper apartment, use your newfoud buckets of money to work in your community garden for a month. See how you feel then.

phkahler 9y ago

>> working hard to make the price as front-loaded as possible This. You say the company is profitable, growing and debt-free. The sale should look more like a purchase and less like financing given the condition of the company. If you're that critical to the function of the company, then a priority should be to reduce that dependence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_planning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_planning It's a thing.