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In fairness to Firefox, at this point I'm just waiting for their dev tools to get as good as Chrome's before I seriously consider switching, and other efforts l

by buu700 9y ago

In fairness to Firefox, at this point I'm just waiting for their dev tools to get as good as Chrome's before I seriously consider switching, and other efforts like Quantum certainly make the prospect even more attractive. Once they have me on desktop, I'll want to switch on mobile as well for the state syncing benefits. I wouldn't be surprised if a sizeable portion of Chrome users were in a similar boat, quietly waiting for some small aspect of Firefox to improve.

cracell 9y ago
Yeah the war is certainly not over. Chrome is vulnerable in a lot of ways. Heck at this point I can imagine IE making a huge comeback even. We'll see.
- dingo_bat 9y ago
  IE has been abandoned by Microsoft. No comebacks. Edge is pretty good though.
  - ams6110 9y ago
    All the older administrative workers at my office, who have used IE for years (often because their enterprise apps required it) are pretty grumpy about Edge. I think it's mainly just because it's different. A lot of people don't like gratuitous change (something most tech companies don't understand at all). I'm sort of in that camp myself. I basically abandoned Office when they came out with the Ribbon UI, and I still haven't liked any new Windows compared to the "classic" NT desktop.
ishbits 9y ago
2 things keep me on Chrome. First, the overly large titlebar on Linux. I've tried some addons to make it more like Chrome but they all look like shit. And second, the dev tools. I find dev tools in Firefox clumsy to use. I believe I originally switched to Chrome for the dev tools when I ventured into frontend development.
- kevingadd 9y ago
  Chrome's chrome (heh) is larger than Firefox's for me. I hate how large its titlebar is. They made it larger in the past couple releases, actually.
- mattcoles 9y ago
  Have you tried something like [1]? I don't know if it works on Linux but it's a big improvement if you prefer vertical space. [1] https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center
- majewsky 9y ago
  > the overly large titlebar on Linux Just installed Chromium to compare. When maximized, the Chromium title bar is 65px high on my system, whereas Firefox's takes 70px. I should note, though, that I have set my window manager to hide the default window decoration on maximized windows, which helps.
Turing_Machine 9y ago
I even develop stuff on Chrome where I'm planning for the final deployment to be to embedded web views on other platforms (e.g. embedded WebKit on Apple platforms). The dev tools are just that much better. Fixing the occasional incompatibility is more than outweighed by the superiority of the Chrome developer console.

by buu700 9y ago

cracell 9y ago

Yeah the war is certainly not over. Chrome is vulnerable in a lot of ways. Heck at this point I can imagine IE making a huge comeback even. We'll see.

dingo_bat 9y ago
IE has been abandoned by Microsoft. No comebacks. Edge is pretty good though.
- ams6110 9y ago
  All the older administrative workers at my office, who have used IE for years (often because their enterprise apps required it) are pretty grumpy about Edge. I think it's mainly just because it's different. A lot of people don't like gratuitous change (something most tech companies don't understand at all). I'm sort of in that camp myself. I basically abandoned Office when they came out with the Ribbon UI, and I still haven't liked any new Windows compared to the "classic" NT desktop.

ishbits 9y ago

2 things keep me on Chrome. First, the overly large titlebar on Linux. I've tried some addons to make it more like Chrome but they all look like shit. And second, the dev tools. I find dev tools in Firefox clumsy to use. I believe I originally switched to Chrome for the dev tools when I ventured into frontend development.

kevingadd 9y ago
Chrome's chrome (heh) is larger than Firefox's for me. I hate how large its titlebar is. They made it larger in the past couple releases, actually.
mattcoles 9y ago
Have you tried something like [1]? I don't know if it works on Linux but it's a big improvement if you prefer vertical space. [1] https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center
majewsky 9y ago
> the overly large titlebar on Linux Just installed Chromium to compare. When maximized, the Chromium title bar is 65px high on my system, whereas Firefox's takes 70px. I should note, though, that I have set my window manager to hide the default window decoration on maximized windows, which helps.

Turing_Machine 9y ago

I even develop stuff on Chrome where I'm planning for the final deployment to be to embedded web views on other platforms (e.g. embedded WebKit on Apple platforms). The dev tools are just that much better. Fixing the occasional incompatibility is more than outweighed by the superiority of the Chrome developer console.