You said upthread: > However it's notable that the only VW vehicles that fail are the ones that don't use diesel exhaust fluid (DEF). That's not "the bulk", t

You said upthread: > However it's notable that the only VW vehicles that fail are the ones that don't use diesel exhaust fluid (DEF). That's not "the bulk", that's all. It is also demonstrably false. Your statement that I quoted previously also did not express or imply "the bulk". > The vast bulk of the controversy was the EA189, which did not use DEF in any form. This is literally a seconds search away. My Passat had an EA189 TDI and used DEF. "A seconds search" for EA189 DEF resulted in this link: http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2016/02/vw-reportedly-buying-back-some-dieselgate-cars.html http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2016/02/vw-reportedly-buy... > Vehicles equipped with updated versions of the EA189 engine that used DEF and SCR systems are considered fixable (this included my car) So, I ask again, from where did you get the idea that a) only non-DEF-equipped cars were affected and b) that no EA189 engines had a DEF system?