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These guys need to take it to the next level - defeat the bots by burning them and drop web presence entirely. This is a brand that would benefit from stealing
by technofiend 9y ago
These guys need to take it to the next level - defeat the bots by burning them and drop web presence entirely. This is a brand that would benefit from stealing the popup idea - random times and places only insiders know about, so dropping web sales despite being anathema on HN might actually build the exclusivity of their brand.
That or take it back out of band in a way bots can't easily overcome like 2fa tied to a device the customer can't or won't give up. I.E. Sell a supreme watch that generates FIDO codes from an enclaved 2fa seed. I suppose you'll need to manually trigger inputs as well just to prevent someone parking a webcam on their watch. At some point you'll add enough delay the quoted 19 seconds for 38 orders will become impossible. You don't need to add too much complexity; just enough to make it impractical for the bots to compete with customers.
You could also add randomness by making people accept one use codes for grab bags of items. They'd have to preregister for whatever items they might want but then it's accept or reject the offer in a timed window. Up the risk factor enough and perhaps a human will want to make a decision rather than leave it to a bot.
And one more idea: co-opt and co-brand: sell a line of botmaker branded gear sold by the winner of a botting contest. Take input from botters on how to raise the bar.
- xzel 9y agoThey do have apps that reduce this stuff and tie it to a phone number: Nike has SNKRS, adidas has confirmed. All the physical stores do raffles in person and many of the websites do raffles online. Basically, all of your other ideas have been implemented by someone at sometime.
- stupidhn 9y ago>This is a brand that would benefit from stealing the popup idea The brand is already hyper-exclusive and doing extremely well, and I didn't get the impression from the article that there is any concern about the bots. Perhaps these people are fine doing what they're doing, and don't need to grow, grow, grow the brand. Perhaps it's Silicon Valley that should be learning some lessons here...