> If your DevOps people reside in a separate group outside of the development team, then you are not doing DevOps Devops and swdevs sitting and working togethe

> If your DevOps people reside in a separate group outside of the development team, then you are not doing DevOps Devops and swdevs sitting and working together, understanding each other's problems and needs, and keeping them in mind when designing solutions, is indeed a beautiful thing to watch.