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It is not the engineers that call themselves 'Devops'. It's the recruiters and managers. Every engineer that I know that holds the 'Devops' title hates it, bu

It is not the engineers that call themselves 'Devops'. It's the recruiters and managers. Every engineer that I know that holds the 'Devops' title hates it, but has no choice in it.

oogali 9y ago
I've observed this, but it depends on experience level. Folks with <5 years experience, tend to enjoy the DevOps portion of their title. Whereas, neckbeards with a deep background tend to dislike it.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  Confirmed! I am not a devops engineer. I am a systems/infrastructure engineer with a continuous integration/deployment skill set and experience. But recruiters look for devops in my title. So, in the word goes. Hate the game, not the player.
- cat199 9y ago
  That is because DevOps is basically what 'a good sysadmin' always did, only now it has a title, and those in the sysadmin role now 'don't have relevant experience' because 'devops' is not on their resume, and 'systems administrator' has been re-associated with 'server tech' as a result..
bostik 9y ago
On the flipside, there are people who valiantly call themselves "DevOps engineers" but are nothing more than glorified remote hands. Thanks to the recruiters and the all-too-common association that "devops = the new ops", the very term has suffered a massive devaluation. I learned this the hard way - I was foolish enough to try to hire DevOps Engineers. That's a two-month span of my life I will never get back. That's why I came up with the idea of renaming it as a search for Infrastructure Engineers. ... only to find out that I wasn't the first one. The signal/noise ratio had obviously been a problem because other companies have used the term before I did, but on the other and, even more companies have joined the crowd since then. (It was interesting to see this blog post, because it has almost the exact title I have had in mind for my WIP longer post on the same topic.)
fit2rule 9y ago
True, that! Recruiters, marketers, managers, PR people .. they all insist on having their own handle on 'their engineers' in some way or another..

It is not the engineers that call themselves 'Devops'. It's the recruiters and managers. Every engineer that I know that holds the 'Devops' title hates it, but has no choice in it.

oogali 9y ago

I've observed this, but it depends on experience level. Folks with <5 years experience, tend to enjoy the DevOps portion of their title. Whereas, neckbeards with a deep background tend to dislike it.

toomuchtodo 9y ago
Confirmed! I am not a devops engineer. I am a systems/infrastructure engineer with a continuous integration/deployment skill set and experience. But recruiters look for devops in my title. So, in the word goes. Hate the game, not the player.
cat199 9y ago
That is because DevOps is basically what 'a good sysadmin' always did, only now it has a title, and those in the sysadmin role now 'don't have relevant experience' because 'devops' is not on their resume, and 'systems administrator' has been re-associated with 'server tech' as a result..

bostik 9y ago

On the flipside, there are people who valiantly call themselves "DevOps engineers" but are nothing more than glorified remote hands. Thanks to the recruiters and the all-too-common association that "devops = the new ops", the very term has suffered a massive devaluation. I learned this the hard way - I was foolish enough to try to hire DevOps Engineers. That's a two-month span of my life I will never get back. That's why I came up with the idea of renaming it as a search for Infrastructure Engineers. ... only to find out that I wasn't the first one. The signal/noise ratio had obviously been a problem because other companies have used the term before I did, but on the other and, even more companies have joined the crowd since then. (It was interesting to see this blog post, because it has almost the exact title I have had in mind for my WIP longer post on the same topic.)

fit2rule 9y ago

True, that! Recruiters, marketers, managers, PR people .. they all insist on having their own handle on 'their engineers' in some way or another..