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As a relatively old guy, I always thought that DevOps was just the new name for what people have always been doing. It is literally just now that I've realised
by mikekchar 9y ago
As a relatively old guy, I always thought that DevOps was just the new name for what people have always been doing. It is literally just now that I've realised that other people think it is different :-) Possibly younger people don't understand what system administrators used to do...
- richardjennings 9y ago"Possibly younger people don't understand what system administrators used to do..." System Administrators used to blame developers. Developers used to blame System Administrators. Devops is in part an attempt to mediate between "silos".
- cat199 9y agoBad System Administrators used to blame developers. Bad Developers used to blame System Administrators. Real Systems Administrators attempt to mediate between "silos". therego...
- cestith 9y agoTherefore we need a new title to distinguish "Real System Administrators" from server technicians. So, we get "devops" for people who understand both.
- user15672 9y agoExcept in reality we get people who are bad at dev and bad at ops pretending they can do both
- cestith 9y agoYou get people who aren't very good in every kind of role in every kind of organization. Sturgeon's Law applies to everything, even people. If you have more than 10% of your team doing really well you're ahead of the game.
- jimwalsh 9y agoDevOps role is different because it assumes full product ownership. Typical system administrators are focused on just the infrastructure portions. In a DevOps role you are more focused on the things running on that infra, as well as the infra. It's a more encompassing role than the traditional 'sysadmin' role.
- Stranger43 9y agoIn the olden days before it became fashionable to outsource everything to "specialist" the sysadmin team often had full product ownership.