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Oh come on. Blaming Android for Verizon/Motorola's failings (and your own in not realizing what everyone was saying was _the_ advantage of the Nexus One) as wel

by ahk 16y ago

Oh come on. Blaming Android for Verizon/Motorola's failings (and your own in not realizing what everyone was saying was _the_ advantage of the Nexus One) as well as rapid technological progress is pathetic. Do you even remember the stunt Apple pulled a few years ago where they dropped the price of iPhone from $599 to $399? Do you intend to ping pong between Apple and Android whenever they announce such decisions?

masklinn 16y ago
> Blaming Android for Verizon/Motorola's failings (and your own in not realizing what everyone was saying was _the_ advantage of the Nexus One) as well as rapid technological progress is pathetic. His point is that, unless he buys a N1 maybe, he will never ever have any guarantees that his phone will be kept up to date for even 2 years.
- ahk 16y ago
  Have you/the OP heard of Android's extremely lively mod scene? Cyanogen even supports the ancient G1 to very nearly the latest 2.1 version of android.
  - masklinn 16y ago
    Most users are not going to bother with rooting their phones and installing cyanogen. > Cyanogen even supports the ancient G1 to very nearly the latest 2.1 version of android. Disingenuous, Cyanogen specifically supports 4 phones: Dream, Magic, N1 and Droid. Notice the distinct lack of Motorola Devour in the list?
    - ahk 16y ago
      I was responding to the parent's point about "only" "N1 maybe", which is obviously false.
loewenskind 16y ago
Ok, so Apple haters blast Apple for keeping such a tight control and cheer when savior Google comes out with something "open", but when that openness is used by the vendors to do what they want instead of what Google wants it's not Google's fault? Did you ever stop to think that perhaps the reason Apple behaves as it does is to avoid exactly this problem? You're pointing at something you think should theoretically be better and pointing fingers when it doesn't pan out, meanwhile the "evil" alternative is giving users a great experience.
- ahk 16y ago
  Where am I attacking Apple in my post? I'm actually as much of an Apple fanboy as anyone else who stands in line at the Apple store waiting for hours for their product releases. And I've done that myself once. But just because I love Apple products, it doesn't mean I cannot also defend Android when someone blames it for something thats not its fault. I love Google and Android for what they do too. And yes, the openness leading to such situations is not Google/Android's fault. Just as much as an authorized gun salesman making a legal sale is not at fault when someone then uses their guns to go postal. Also, the OP getting so worked up comparing support for a little known model of cellphone to Apple's flagship product is funny if not foolish.
  - loewenskind 16y ago
    I didn't mean you specifically were attacking Apple. What I meant, and what my point was, is that Apple is attacked for keeping control of it's platform, but now we see what happens when one doesn't. Your gun analogy doesn't fit. Google doesn't control their distributor so the product they make may never see the light of day. It's not about someone using Google's free offering to injure someone, but rather taking it, making their own (inferior) creation and passing that off as Android. I welcome competition in the space to be sure, but people screaming about Apple keeping control of their product (would you expect anything else from Steve Jobs?) are missing the point IMO.

by ahk 16y ago

masklinn 16y ago

> Blaming Android for Verizon/Motorola's failings (and your own in not realizing what everyone was saying was _the_ advantage of the Nexus One) as well as rapid technological progress is pathetic. His point is that, unless he buys a N1 maybe, he will never ever have any guarantees that his phone will be kept up to date for even 2 years.

ahk 16y ago
Have you/the OP heard of Android's extremely lively mod scene? Cyanogen even supports the ancient G1 to very nearly the latest 2.1 version of android.
- masklinn 16y ago
  Most users are not going to bother with rooting their phones and installing cyanogen. > Cyanogen even supports the ancient G1 to very nearly the latest 2.1 version of android. Disingenuous, Cyanogen specifically supports 4 phones: Dream, Magic, N1 and Droid. Notice the distinct lack of Motorola Devour in the list?
  - ahk 16y ago
    I was responding to the parent's point about "only" "N1 maybe", which is obviously false.

loewenskind 16y ago

Ok, so Apple haters blast Apple for keeping such a tight control and cheer when savior Google comes out with something "open", but when that openness is used by the vendors to do what they want instead of what Google wants it's not Google's fault? Did you ever stop to think that perhaps the reason Apple behaves as it does is to avoid exactly this problem? You're pointing at something you think should theoretically be better and pointing fingers when it doesn't pan out, meanwhile the "evil" alternative is giving users a great experience.

ahk 16y ago
Where am I attacking Apple in my post? I'm actually as much of an Apple fanboy as anyone else who stands in line at the Apple store waiting for hours for their product releases. And I've done that myself once. But just because I love Apple products, it doesn't mean I cannot also defend Android when someone blames it for something thats not its fault. I love Google and Android for what they do too. And yes, the openness leading to such situations is not Google/Android's fault. Just as much as an authorized gun salesman making a legal sale is not at fault when someone then uses their guns to go postal. Also, the OP getting so worked up comparing support for a little known model of cellphone to Apple's flagship product is funny if not foolish.
- loewenskind 16y ago
  I didn't mean you specifically were attacking Apple. What I meant, and what my point was, is that Apple is attacked for keeping control of it's platform, but now we see what happens when one doesn't. Your gun analogy doesn't fit. Google doesn't control their distributor so the product they make may never see the light of day. It's not about someone using Google's free offering to injure someone, but rather taking it, making their own (inferior) creation and passing that off as Android. I welcome competition in the space to be sure, but people screaming about Apple keeping control of their product (would you expect anything else from Steve Jobs?) are missing the point IMO.