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Interesting. From the psychological side I found mushrooms to be way less predictive than LSD. Assuming basic rules are applied to both including safe dosing.

by herbst 9y ago

xiaoma 9y ago
Predictive of what? Edit: I've read studies that found psychological benefits from a single use of LSD, six months later. Anyone able to comment on whether or not this is true for mushrooms?
- ryanlol 9y ago
  Perhaps they meant predictable? If so, I'd be inclined to agree.
- herbst 9y ago
  probably ment predictable. You are less able to control emotions IMO which CAN hurt your psychological health (doesnt have to tho)
  - ada1981 9y ago
    >> You are less able to control emotions << The entire point is to surrender and let go of control. So if you are a person who lives in a paradigm where emotions are things that need to be controlled, psychedelic are going to be a stern teacher for your ego. I'd recommend folks starting with something like Holotropic Breathwork and learning to surrender to your felt experience without trying to manage or control it.
- bydo 9y ago
  Sure: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/12/the-life-changing-magic-of-mushrooms/509246/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/12/the-life-...
wyldfire 9y ago
> ... just 0.2% of them said they needed emergency medical treatment The metric here is "decided to go to the hospital". So the "basic rules" are not really controlled for. If folks who take shrooms know their potential, they might plan their trip better. I suppose the critical inputs might be something like "sum of [actual toxic effects of drug times ease of overdose, effects of drug w/symptoms that match actual illness]". If the actual toxicity dominates the reported hospital visits, shrooms should win, right? > “Death from toxicity is almost unheard of with poisoning with more dangerous fungi being a much greater risk in terms of serious harms.”

Interesting. From the psychological side I found mushrooms to be way less predictive than LSD. Assuming basic rules are applied to both including safe dosing.

by herbst 9y ago

Interesting. From the psychological side I found mushrooms to be way less predictive than LSD. Assuming basic rules are applied to both including safe dosing.

xiaoma 9y ago

Predictive of what? Edit: I've read studies that found psychological benefits from a single use of LSD, six months later. Anyone able to comment on whether or not this is true for mushrooms?

ryanlol 9y ago
Perhaps they meant predictable? If so, I'd be inclined to agree.
herbst 9y ago
probably ment predictable. You are less able to control emotions IMO which CAN hurt your psychological health (doesnt have to tho)
- ada1981 9y ago
  >> You are less able to control emotions << The entire point is to surrender and let go of control. So if you are a person who lives in a paradigm where emotions are things that need to be controlled, psychedelic are going to be a stern teacher for your ego. I'd recommend folks starting with something like Holotropic Breathwork and learning to surrender to your felt experience without trying to manage or control it.
bydo 9y ago
Sure: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/12/the-life-changing-magic-of-mushrooms/509246/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/12/the-life-...

wyldfire 9y ago

> ... just 0.2% of them said they needed emergency medical treatment The metric here is "decided to go to the hospital". So the "basic rules" are not really controlled for. If folks who take shrooms know their potential, they might plan their trip better. I suppose the critical inputs might be something like "sum of [actual toxic effects of drug times ease of overdose, effects of drug w/symptoms that match actual illness]". If the actual toxicity dominates the reported hospital visits, shrooms should win, right? > “Death from toxicity is almost unheard of with poisoning with more dangerous fungi being a much greater risk in terms of serious harms.”