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IMO, util someone does some kind of "qemu+wine"-like for running Amiga applications and disk images as normal Linux desktop applications, the periodic "new Amig

IMO, util someone does some kind of "qemu+wine"-like for running Amiga applications and disk images as normal Linux desktop applications, the periodic "new Amiga hardware" will never end :-)

_pmf_ 9y ago
Doesn't MAME run Amiga ROMs?
- smacktoward 9y ago
  Well, there's UAE: http://amiga.technology/ http://amiga.technology/ TFA argues that the experience of running emulated software on this new "Amiga" is substantially better than running it via UAE on Linux/Windows/whatever, though. (For what they're charging for the new hardware, I would say it'd better be.)
- digi_owl 9y ago
  Since MESS was merged in, it should indeed.
vidarh 9y ago
You have a couple of alternatives: UAE, which in its various incarnations runs pretty much everywhere, to run M68k AmigaOS apps, or AROS to run recompiled system-friendly apps. AROS runs on pretty much anything, hosted under Windows, OS X, Linux, as well as native on a wider range of architectures (including on some original Amigas). AROS can get you most of the way there, in that you can do graphics backends for it that run "rootless" on a Linux desktop, but the problem with that is still that there is no direct equivalent to the Amiga concept of screen's in X. Desktops is almost but not quite there, in that an application expects to be able to open them and place windows there. To get that to work smoothly you'd probably at a minimum need a special window manager and patching AROS to talk to one. But the people buying this hardware are those who are not interested in / satisfied with emulation.
- faragon 9y ago
  I know UAE since its beginning. My point was about desktop integration, e.g. using clipboard between Linux desktop applications and Amiga applications, window resizing using host window manager, etc.
  - ZenoArrow 9y ago
    As vidarh said, what you want is AROS. You can host AROS on Linux. The only thing that would be missing is clipboard sharing, but that could be developed. There are even 'AROS on Linux' distros: https://www.aeros-os.org/ https://www.aeros-os.org/ http://vmwaros.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/native-or-hosted-on-linux-both.html http://vmwaros.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/native-or-hosted-on-li...
notalaser 9y ago
AmiKit does something of a similar consequence (though with an opposite approach) via Rabbit Hole: https://www.amikit.amiga.sk/ https://www.amikit.amiga.sk/ .
cr0sh 9y ago
If you don't mind paying for a distro (basically for the packaging): https://www.amigaforever.com/ https://www.amigaforever.com/

IMO, util someone does some kind of "qemu+wine"-like for running Amiga applications and disk images as normal Linux desktop applications, the periodic "new Amiga hardware" will never end :-)

_pmf_ 9y ago

Doesn't MAME run Amiga ROMs?

smacktoward 9y ago
Well, there's UAE: http://amiga.technology/ http://amiga.technology/ TFA argues that the experience of running emulated software on this new "Amiga" is substantially better than running it via UAE on Linux/Windows/whatever, though. (For what they're charging for the new hardware, I would say it'd better be.)
digi_owl 9y ago
Since MESS was merged in, it should indeed.

vidarh 9y ago

You have a couple of alternatives: UAE, which in its various incarnations runs pretty much everywhere, to run M68k AmigaOS apps, or AROS to run recompiled system-friendly apps. AROS runs on pretty much anything, hosted under Windows, OS X, Linux, as well as native on a wider range of architectures (including on some original Amigas). AROS can get you most of the way there, in that you can do graphics backends for it that run "rootless" on a Linux desktop, but the problem with that is still that there is no direct equivalent to the Amiga concept of screen's in X. Desktops is almost but not quite there, in that an application expects to be able to open them and place windows there. To get that to work smoothly you'd probably at a minimum need a special window manager and patching AROS to talk to one. But the people buying this hardware are those who are not interested in / satisfied with emulation.

faragon 9y ago
I know UAE since its beginning. My point was about desktop integration, e.g. using clipboard between Linux desktop applications and Amiga applications, window resizing using host window manager, etc.
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  As vidarh said, what you want is AROS. You can host AROS on Linux. The only thing that would be missing is clipboard sharing, but that could be developed. There are even 'AROS on Linux' distros: https://www.aeros-os.org/ https://www.aeros-os.org/ http://vmwaros.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/native-or-hosted-on-linux-both.html http://vmwaros.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/native-or-hosted-on-li...

notalaser 9y ago

AmiKit does something of a similar consequence (though with an opposite approach) via Rabbit Hole: https://www.amikit.amiga.sk/ https://www.amikit.amiga.sk/ .

cr0sh 9y ago

If you don't mind paying for a distro (basically for the packaging): https://www.amigaforever.com/ https://www.amigaforever.com/