This is why I said you'd have to squint really hard to find something like this. You're clearly moving the goalposts here. I didn't ask about just a working s

This is why I said you'd have to squint really hard to find something like this. You're clearly moving the goalposts here. I didn't ask about just a working solution, which could be almost anything. Even just something as hacky as everyone running an ftp server might fit such an extremely vague criterion. But to run with your new scenario, professional programmers could come up with just a working solution quickly. However, lots of CS students could do the same. Pretending like no CS students can program reasonably well is disingenuous. > most CS students would take months to even be able to finish a basic program I don't have statistics on that, but I suspect most seniors and juniors could get something working in far less than a month. You're just trying to paint them in a worse light here. It's not like CS students don't have larger projects they complete in relatively short time frames. > And it would fall over as soon as you sneezed at it. I bet the that would be even more so for programmers with no CS experience. The reason I mention P2P programs is that they require CS fundamentals to function reasonably well. And CS students would be far better equipped to look up and understand and implement those things. Your average programmer who thinks CS is unnecessary is likely to write something that indeed 'falls over as soon as you sneeze at it' here because under a real load, it will not perform well. > While there will be exceptions on either side, run that race a thousand times, and the programmers would win the majority of times. For writing yet another Rails website or somesuch, maybe. For an example like mine, that requires in-depth CS knowledge, not a chance! I think the reason you are so confused is that you assume CS students can't be 'programmers' and/or you're mentally pitting experienced devs against new CS students. I doubt a new programmer that didn't have CS knowledge would do well at any of this!