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Scuttlebot peer-to-peer log store

51 points by bpierre 9y ago

graphememes 9y ago
I long for the day where we no longer need a server at all.
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masukomi 9y ago
I think the more relevant link is https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ which is more about the use of it and thinking behind it than just dumping you in the core docs... I find it good to know if i should care before i start dissecting the guts of an API.
- atestu 9y ago
  What's the difference between scuttlebutt and scuttlebot? From the repo… > There are already several applications built on scuttlebot, one of the best ways to learn about secure-scuttlebutt is to poke around in these applications. I'm very confused.
  - ahdinosaur 9y ago
    hey @atestu, i agree it's confusing. this page on scuttlebutt.nz should help: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/modules.html#secure-scuttlebutt-vs-scuttlebutt-vs-scuttlebot-vs-sbot https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/modules.html#secure-scuttlebutt-v... feel free to ask if you have more questions. :3
  - brad0 9y ago
    Scuttlebutt is the protocol. Scuttlebot is a nodejs library that has implemented the protocol. You can use the scuttlebot library to build peer to peer apps. I looked into it a while back, it seems like a cool technology. Happy to try and answer any questions.
- brad0 9y ago
  I would say that is somewhat outdated as well. Take a look at https://ssbc.github.io https://ssbc.github.io it's much more detailed as to how it all works.
  - ahdinosaur 9y ago
    hey @brad0, as far as i know, ssbc.github.io is the most out-of-date, at the time of being written by @pfraze it was superseded by scuttlebot.io which has all the same detail and more. scuttlebutt.nz is a more recent effort by me to write documentation not only about the technical details of _how_ but also more stories and quotes to capture the spirit of _why_. but having documentation scattered around is confusing, our intention is to consolidate these many sources into scuttlebutt.nz: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/contributing.html#contributing-documentation https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/contributing.html#contributing-do....
    - brad0 9y ago
      Oh sorry! I didn't realise. Scuttlebutt is definitely in need of a consolidation of information. Keep up the good work!
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Jtsummers 9y ago
I ended up here: https://ipfs.io/blog/25-pubsub/ https://ipfs.io/blog/25-pubsub/ after reading up on scuttlebutt (again). They've implemented a pubsub mechanism on IPFS, which would (neatly) handle the data distribution challenge of SSB, and largely be compatible with SSB's ethos. They don't have a way to make it so only certain people can publish, but that's a technically surmountable challenge (either filter out invalidly signed publications now, or wait for them to have their solution in place). Pairing these two approaches, SSB could make a neat application on top of the IPFS pubsub infrastructure (with some work)
je42 9y ago
nice. Kappa Architecture mentioned ! :) -> https://github.com/ssbc/scuttlebot https://github.com/ssbc/scuttlebot

51 points by bpierre 9y ago

graphememes 9y ago

I long for the day where we no longer need a server at all.

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masukomi 9y ago

I think the more relevant link is https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ which is more about the use of it and thinking behind it than just dumping you in the core docs... I find it good to know if i should care before i start dissecting the guts of an API.

atestu 9y ago
What's the difference between scuttlebutt and scuttlebot? From the repo… > There are already several applications built on scuttlebot, one of the best ways to learn about secure-scuttlebutt is to poke around in these applications. I'm very confused.
- ahdinosaur 9y ago
  hey @atestu, i agree it's confusing. this page on scuttlebutt.nz should help: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/modules.html#secure-scuttlebutt-vs-scuttlebutt-vs-scuttlebot-vs-sbot https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/modules.html#secure-scuttlebutt-v... feel free to ask if you have more questions. :3
- brad0 9y ago
  Scuttlebutt is the protocol. Scuttlebot is a nodejs library that has implemented the protocol. You can use the scuttlebot library to build peer to peer apps. I looked into it a while back, it seems like a cool technology. Happy to try and answer any questions.
brad0 9y ago
I would say that is somewhat outdated as well. Take a look at https://ssbc.github.io https://ssbc.github.io it's much more detailed as to how it all works.
- ahdinosaur 9y ago
  hey @brad0, as far as i know, ssbc.github.io is the most out-of-date, at the time of being written by @pfraze it was superseded by scuttlebot.io which has all the same detail and more. scuttlebutt.nz is a more recent effort by me to write documentation not only about the technical details of _how_ but also more stories and quotes to capture the spirit of _why_. but having documentation scattered around is confusing, our intention is to consolidate these many sources into scuttlebutt.nz: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/contributing.html#contributing-documentation https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/contributing.html#contributing-do....
  - brad0 9y ago
    Oh sorry! I didn't realise. Scuttlebutt is definitely in need of a consolidation of information. Keep up the good work!
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Jtsummers 9y ago

I ended up here: https://ipfs.io/blog/25-pubsub/ https://ipfs.io/blog/25-pubsub/ after reading up on scuttlebutt (again). They've implemented a pubsub mechanism on IPFS, which would (neatly) handle the data distribution challenge of SSB, and largely be compatible with SSB's ethos. They don't have a way to make it so only certain people can publish, but that's a technically surmountable challenge (either filter out invalidly signed publications now, or wait for them to have their solution in place). Pairing these two approaches, SSB could make a neat application on top of the IPFS pubsub infrastructure (with some work)

je42 9y ago

nice. Kappa Architecture mentioned ! :) -> https://github.com/ssbc/scuttlebot https://github.com/ssbc/scuttlebot